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the ACA going as planned to kill off elderly in America
1 posted on 01/27/2015 8:11:24 AM PST by drypowder
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I hope that b!tch gets shingles.


2 posted on 01/27/2015 8:14:45 AM PST by Gaffer
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It sounds great for those who stay well, but for those who are ill and get ill, it’s going to be a problem.


3 posted on 01/27/2015 8:15:59 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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Must bookmark for later - Will ask my doc about it next week, and ask if he can see a way around this!


4 posted on 01/27/2015 8:16:05 AM PST by jacquej ("You cannot have a conservative government with a liberal culture." (Mark Steyn))
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I’m not elderly, but am on Medicare. I’d better find a new PCP soon! No one is going to want to take Medicare patients soon.

I receive excellent care from my physicians, but am not getting any better, in fact, worse all the time. What will that say about my excellent drs????


5 posted on 01/27/2015 8:16:48 AM PST by Shimmer1 ("If you say you support liberty, show me where you stood up and fought for it." Ted Cruz)
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“We believe these goals can drive transformative change

A country where no one lives longer than 60 years will be quite a change. That's really putting the Obama in Obamacare.

6 posted on 01/27/2015 8:17:34 AM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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I went to a doctor a while ago for a checkup and I asked for a skin cancer screening. I have certain risk factors, so this is a sensible thing to do (for anyone, really, but me more than some). I got undressed. The doctor stood about 5 feet away. He looked over and said, "You seem fine. You can get dressed."

So I went to a dermatologist. He was thorough. No issues. Still, I may switch my GP.
If they don't actually DO anything, then they are just squeezing money out of you, waiting for you to die. It's quite pointless.

7 posted on 01/27/2015 8:17:36 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Malort, turning taste-buds into taste-foes for generations.)
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Death Panels....................SARAH WAS RIGHT!...................and still is................


8 posted on 01/27/2015 8:17:39 AM PST by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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It is rather amazing how well the engineers of Obamacare restrained themselves when Sarah Palin let the death panel thing out of the bag.

Of course, they had their media flunkies do all the gasping.

9 posted on 01/27/2015 8:17:54 AM PST by Slyfox (To put on the mind of George Washington read ALL of Deuteronomy 28, then read his Farewell Address)
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I’d imagine that the concierge MDs are planning a major advertising blitz. I am sure they will be signing up lots of new customers.


10 posted on 01/27/2015 8:18:23 AM PST by proxy_user
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The more tests, scans, surgeries that hospitals and doctors do, the less they will make.

So doctors will get sued if they don't do a test or a surgery and something goes wrong, and they make less money if they do the test or surgery.How can anyone work under those conditions?

11 posted on 01/27/2015 8:18:57 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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Obama and the left taking aim at the senior citizens once again. Like Ebeneezer Scrooge, "They hope we all die and reduce the surplus population."

There is serious evil afoot in the world today and we had better be ready to confront it. It has the potential of making the Black Plague look like an episode of stomach flu by comparison.

12 posted on 01/27/2015 8:19:04 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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“We believe these goals can drive transformative change,”

Beware those who use the term ‘transformative’. Seriously. In my experience this word is used most frequently by those who have little imagination or creativity, average intelligence, and who nonetheless have huge narcissistic egos.

13 posted on 01/27/2015 8:19:43 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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Groovy. Sovietized medical system.

If they really wanted lower prices, its simple: train more docs.

Medical school admissions were held artificially low in the 1970-80s because the AMA had salary level targets cooked into their admissions recommendations.

When they started coming up scarce on docs in the 90s, they began importing third rate docs from Pakistan and India (English speaking).

There were tens of thousands of people in the US. who could have done better had there been a US medical school billet for them.

And the same is true now.


14 posted on 01/27/2015 8:19:51 AM PST by Regulator
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Murder in the beginning of life and murder at the end of life. The liberal/progressives national and internatonal (Soros, et al) have our whole lives planned for us.


15 posted on 01/27/2015 8:20:22 AM PST by Bitsy
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I am sure this will go badly, but understand the need for something to be done.

My in-laws are elderly, and got roped into some doctors who perform endless tests. Seems all they do is go to doctors. My wife (who is a doctor, and their daughter), finally called B.S. and stopped it.

Not sure how to fix the doctors-with-a-blank-taxpayer checkbook vs. getting the best care possible situation.

My inclination is to recognize that the system is non-workable and phase it out over 20 years, so those that are dependent on the system would not be screwed and those who will need it can plan accordingly.

Basically, like most “new deal” crap Medicare was a mistake.


20 posted on 01/27/2015 8:30:14 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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Killing Medicare to feed Obamacare.


26 posted on 01/27/2015 8:46:18 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms - Open Up!" "Must be another UPS delivery, honey.")
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there’s another side to this as well.

The costs associated with running the tests will spike for those who actually get them.

The price of an MRI machine isn’t decreasing. The cost that a hospital incurs for having one is distributed over the number of patients who use it. The more patients that use it, the lower the average cost of doing so, thanks to economies of scale.

Go in the opposite direction, reduce the number of patients who use it, and the per-patient cost will increase. This, in turn, will create additional disincentives for insurance companies to pay for using it.

The natural theoretical progression is to a point where the machine sits unused because no one is willing to pay for using it. Since the hospital takes a bath on a piece of equipment that doesn’t get used, they don’t updrage to a new model and don’t replace it when it reaches the end of it’s service life.

It’s a very backhanded, passive aggressive way for the government to reduce “costs” via rationing. And it’ll be the hospitals (insisting on high prices to use an expensive machine) and insurance companies (refusing to pay those prices) that get blamed for a situation the government has created.


27 posted on 01/27/2015 8:52:52 AM PST by tanknetter
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Make all Federal Government employees and elected A** H**** use the EXACT SAME medical Insurance program that they are doling out to US!


29 posted on 01/27/2015 8:57:10 AM PST by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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Are the Doctors still liable for lawsuits if the miss a diagnose because they take fewer tests?


30 posted on 01/27/2015 9:00:17 AM PST by Rusty0604
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Those with money will have Very Private Health Care by subscribing to membership in a type of health care club, as consumers join Costco or Sam’s Club for their household purchases now..

Those who depend on Medicare will get limited care and will die sooner, thus solving the government’s problem of too many Baby Boomers bankrupting the Socialist systems of Medicare and Social Security. It’s all been planned for us.


32 posted on 01/27/2015 9:17:33 AM PST by txrefugee
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