Apparently, so does Finland.
Posted on 01/25/2015 8:54:14 PM PST by TigerClaws
The woman who accused Florida State University star Jameis Winston of raping her has come forward for a new documentary.
Eric Kinsman, 20, speaks publicly in The Hunting Ground, which premiered Friday at the Sundance Film festival currently being held in Utah.
In the film, Kinsman details the night of the reported attack, as well as the harassment she endured while Tallahassee police reportedly botched their rape investigation.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2926229/Erica-Kinsman-20-alleged-rape-victim-Seminoles-star-Jameis-Winston-comes-forward-publicly-documentary-debuting-Sundance.html#ixzz3PtsVOncf Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
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Why am I not surprised?
Black on white rape is epidemic compared to the reverse.
Yet many white women are naive babes in the woods about it due to the leftist taboo that censors even discussing this fact.
My guess is they'll ignore it UNLESS they cover it to bash the girl.
The media groveled at the feet of Jameis Winston and FSU.
Whoa! “Erica,” not “Eric.”
That whole story almost took a radical turn in subject matter.
Why do you ALWAYS defend rapists and/or accused rapists, no matter what the case, story, or FR thread?
Have you ever wondered why? I think everybody else here wonders why.
Mirror check, Dad. Steady eyes, look deep inside.
She’s looking for a big payday from lawsuit against Winston as soon as he gets his NFL signing bonus. His lawyers will probably settle with her and then she will continue with lawsuits against FSU and City of Talahassee. It’s all about the money.
But I can't help noticing that freepers were overwhelmingly in favor of giving Duke lacrosse players the benefit of the doubt, and overwhelmingly in favor of giving an FSU football player nothing of the sort.
And it bothers me quite a bit that I think I know the reason why.
Why not? I used to know a guy named Shirley (not joking, not a tranny, absolutely true). I guess his parents really wanted a girl.
and it bothers me quite a bit that i think i know the reason why.
lmao
get back to us when you are sure.
The totality of the circumstances might disagree with you. Look at the accusers. A drug-addled hooker with nothing to lose who saw dollar signs versus a college student from a good family with everything to lose.
1) My screen name is a “tell”...
Really. Do tell. Because my screen name has nothing to do with the issue.
Can you possibly get any lamer?
2) “Yes, I get it...you don’t believe in rape”
Completely incorrect. Try again.
3) “I have seen you on other threads doing this same type of thing.”
Getting to the truth of the matter?
Rebuttal.
1) The investigating detective does not believe the accuser in this case. PERIOD. Why not? Because her story changed significantly during the three interviews.
2) The DA who was to prosecute the case chose not to bring charges? Why not?
The answer to this is unknowable because we can not read his mind.
The primary hypothesis is that he knows that he can not get a conviction because of the tox, DNA and witnesses in the case.
Positives:
Instant reporting of case:
At least in this case we have an instant report coupled with the requisite DNA and Tox screen evidence. That is a big plus in favor of the accuser. It allowed the necessary medical evidence required for a conviction to be collected.
Negatives:
- Accuser did not know the location of the alleged attack (alleged perps dorm room).
- Accuser did not know the name of the alleged attacker. This was not a ‘jump out from the bushes attack’. This was a ‘left bar with defendant’, ‘willingly took taxi ride with defendant and friends’, ‘willingly went into defendants dorm’, ‘willingly went into defendants room’, ‘willingly got onto defendants bed’ type of attack. So, during all this time, she did not get the defendants name?
- Accuser did not know the defendants height.
Defendant is 6’4”. Initial claim was that he was 6’2”. The second claim was that he was what, 5’-9” to 5’-11”. So not only do the police now not have a name, a location, they are also looking for a suspect much shorter than the perp.
- Accuser left the scene with the defendant on his scooter.
So she is reasonably sober (according to the drug test police soon administer). Yet she doesn’t know where she came from.
- Accuser told friends, who called into the police that defendant hit her on the head.
This claim was not in the two witness statements she made to the police.
- Defendant has two witnesses.
While they may be lying their asses off, the defendant’s two friends both told the police that she went to defendant’s apartment with him willingly. They further told the police that she willingly had sex with the defendant.
The DA does not appear to have a winnable case.
1) I don't think 'that' would be the reason. We don't need to go there.
2) No, we are not 'overwhelmingly in favor' of 'Duke lacrosse v FSU football player;...
To my shame, I was initially on the other side of the Duke case. Probably due to my bias against frats. Those posts were not on this site, but another. However, I did correct myself once the facts started coming out. Nifong getting disbarred was a good thing. 3) Most likely, they are just biased against FSU and for their alma-mater.
4) Alternatively, they are undercover feminist/democrats trying to 'win over the site' on an issue by employing specific methods of group control.
(ie. What Rush calls 'seminar callers'... You know, the ones that typically start off with "I am a life long Republican, but..."
So what are the ‘totality of the circumstances’?
Your first point was: “A drug-addled hooker with nothing to lose who saw dollar signs”
- I don’t think that is a good assessment of the start of the case.
- The hookers ORIGINAL motif was most probably her desire to not go to jail. She was drunk as a skunk in public. The Cops had been called on her. She had the choice of going to jail right then or ... making a false complaint.
- I think she just chose the easy out.
- $$$ may have come later.
- But most likely, the case went viral and she was trapped in the lie and couldn’t get out easily.
Your counter point is: “a college student from a good family with everything to lose.(sic)”
- I don’t know enough about the circumstances of this ‘college student’
- Now that she has gone public, perhaps some intrepid people will do the research.
- She is promoting the movie, “The Hunting Ground”
- The movie makes/repeats the false claim, that “it’s an unabashedly activist effort that puts a human face on an issue that has slowly been gaining momentum for the last couple of years: an estimated one in five women will face sexual assault during her time at college.”
— SO, IF TRUE, ARE YOU READY TO PUT ONE IN FIVE COLLEGE MEN IN JAIL FOR ‘SEXUAL ASSAULT’?
- Hmmm. “examines the “epidemic” of rape on U.S. college campuses. The film premiered here Friday to an awed crowd that included California senator Barbara Boxer and New York senator Kirsten Gillibrand.”
- Hmmm. Made by “Dick and his longtime producing partner Amy Ziering seem poised to similarly reframe the national conversation with their powerful documentary “
- Some TOP democrats have been using this false claim (epidemic rape) to push their laws.
- These TOP democrats are misusing Title IX to force new ‘sexual assault’ rules on colleges that are inappropriate.
- See the Title IX notes from U.S. Department of Education:
QUOTE 1: “Title IX RSS December 30, 2014
Harvard Law School Found in Violation of Title IX, Agrees to Remedy Sexual Harassment, including Sexual Assault of Students
The U.S. Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights (OCR) announced today that it has entered into a resolution agreement with Harvard University and its Law School after finding the Law School in violation of Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972 for its response to sexual harassment, including sexual assault.
Tags:Title IXInvestigationCivil RightsPress Releases”
QUOTE 2: “November 5, 2014
Princeton University Found in Violation of Title IX, Reaches Agreement with U.S. Education Department to Address, Prevent Sexual Assault and Harassment of Students
The U.S. Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights (OCR) announced today that it has entered into a resolution agreement with Princeton University in Princeton, New Jersey, to ensure compliance with Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972 as it applies to sexual harassment and violence.
Tags:Civil RightsTitle IXPress Releases”
QUOTE 3: “July 11, 2014
Senior Education Civil Rights Official to Participate in Dartmouth College’s Summit on Sexual Assault
Catherine E.
Tags:Title IXMedia Advisories”
QUOTE 4: “May 9, 2014
VMI Resolves Sex Discrimination Investigation by U.S. Department of Education
The U.S. Department of Education announced today that its Office for Civil Rights (OCR) entered into a resolution agreement with Virginia Military Institute (VMI) after finding that VMI engaged in sex discrimination in violation of Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972.
Tags:Title IXPress Releases”
QUOTE 5: “May 1, 2014
U.S. Department of Education Releases List of Higher Education Institutions with Open Title IX Sexual Violence Investigations
The U.S. Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights (OCR) released today a list of the higher education institutions under investigation for possible violations of federal law over the handling of sexual violence and harassment complaints.
Tags:Title IXPress Releases”
QUOTE 6: “May 9, 2013
Departments of Justice and Education Reach Settlement to Address and Prevent Sexual Assault and Harassment of Students at the University of Montana in Missoula
The Department of Justice and the Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights obtained a comprehensive resolution agreement today with the University of Montana-Missoula in Missoula, Mont., to ensure that it responds swiftly and effectively to allegations of sexual assault and harassment by students.
Tags:Title IXPress Releases”
QUOTE 7: “February 15, 2013
Office for Civil Rights Announces Resolution of Title IX Compliance Review Involving the Evansville-Vanderburgh School Corporation in Evansville, Ind.
The U.S. Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights today announced the resolution of a Title IX compliance review at the Evansville-Vanderburgh School Corporation in Evansville, Ind.
Tags:DiscriminationTitle I, Part ATitle IXPress Releases”
QUOTE 8: “June 15, 2012
U.S. Department of Education Announces Resolution of Yale University Civil Rights Investigation
The U.S. Department of Education announced today that its Office for Civil Rights has entered into a resolution agreement with Yale University, in New Haven, Conn., to resolve a complaint alleging that Yale failed to eliminate sex discrimination in violation of Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972. Discrimination on the basis of sex is prohibited by Title IX.
Tags:Yale UniversityTitle IXDiscriminationPress Releases”
QUOTE 9: “Vice President Biden Announces Strengthening of Title IX
Washington, D.C. — Today, Vice President Biden announced that the Administration has issued a ‘Dear Colleague’ letter that withdraws a 2005 interpretation of Title IX policy. Enacted in 1972, Title IX mandates that any educational institution receiving federal funding for programs and activities cannot discriminate on the basis of sex.
Tags:Title IXCollege CompletionPress Releases”
Remember the good old days when a fetching young woman could pull a train of football players and not have to claim rape later ?
This racism crap is just ruining everything.
So... is she just going after the guy with money, or is she also charging the other guys ?
She doesn’t even seem to be sure who ‘raped’ her.
The original poster intimated that skin color was the reason Duke got the benefit of the doubt while the FSU student didn’t. That’s really the only part I was replying to. If I hear a story about a hooker going to a college party and pressing rape charges and then hear another story about a student going to a bar and then pressing rape charges against a popular college football player, I’m going to give the benefit of the doubt to the latter. No matter what the skin color.
Back up the story for a bigger picture:
How does that line go... “When they came for the male college students, I did not complain because I was not a male college student...”
1) Republicans folded a year or so ago on refunding the “Violence against Women Act”
2) Now the Dems are attacking the Colleges using Title IX. Once they roll these 55, the rest of the schools will comply without question.
2a) QUOTE: “Harvard and Princeton among 55 schools facing Title IX investigation
Fifty-five institutions face inquiry into handling of sexual abuse complaints named publicly by Education Department
Associated Press in Washington Thursday 1 May 2014 12.29 EDT
The Education Department on Thursday took the unprecedented step of releasing the names of the 55 colleges and universities currently facing a Title IX investigation over their handling of sexual abuse complaints.
The release came two days after a White House task force promised greater government transparency on sexual assault in higher education. The department said it will keep an updated list of schools facing such an investigation and make it available upon request.
.... (THEY ARE MISAPPROPRIATING TITLE IX)
Title IX prohibits gender discrimination at schools that receive federal funds. It is the same law that guarantees girls equal access to sports, but it also regulates institutions’ handling of sexual violence and increasingly is being used by victims who say their schools failed to protect them.
.... (WHITE HOUSE IS PROMOTING THE 1 IN 5 LIE)
Citing research, the White House has said that 1 in 5 female students is assaulted. President Barack Obama appointed a task force comprised of his cabinet members to review the issue after hearing complaints about the poor treatment of campus rape victims and the hidden nature of such crimes.
... (THEY ARE USING THE POWER OF THE PURSE TO GAIN CONTROL)
The department can withhold federal funding from a school that doesn’t comply with the law, but it so far has not used that power and instead has negotiated voluntary resolutions for violators.
... (EFFORT BEING LEAD BY GILLIBRAND AND McCASKILL)
Senators Kirsten Gillibrand and Claire McCaskill have said non-compliance under the law is “far too common”. They say a lack of federal resources is partly to blame for that, and they’ve sought more money to ensure timely and proper investigations.
... (MILE WIDE GAP BETWEEN 1in5 and REPORTED ASSAULTS)
Another law that campus sexual assault cases fall under is the Clery Act, which requires colleges and universities to report crime statistics on or near their campuses. It also requires schools to develop prevention policies and ensure victims their basic rights. Investigations under this law are not included in the list that was released.
Fifty-five institutions face inquiry into handling of sexual abuse complaints named publicly by Education Department
Apparently, so does Finland.
Erica needs to find better friends.
Sounds like you’re an FSU fan.
Tis misandry for political gain. Not racism.
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