while reaping the benefits and sending remittances back home.
S.S. Pvm't. were being sent overseas...like Poland/Mexiheco.
Posted on 01/25/2015 7:22:13 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
That NAFTA thingy worked out real well didn’t it.
yup. and let’s not forget that the hypocrites in Chamber of Commerce want to hire illegals who will stay illegal as well.
greed cuts both ways in this case. in truth, illegals and the Chamber and their GOPe cronies are a match made in hell.
this is perhaps the most obvious reason, of many, why the ruling elite’s defacto amnesty is ripping the fabric of our civil society and any so called “path to citizenship” outside our existing, currently unenforced, laws is nothing more than political cover for a green-card light to draw more illegals into this permanent, festering underclass.
These people are coming here to be parasites and suck off of the social safety net.That was created to benefit the American people.
This is a prime reason we have ObamaCare today because they are or were bleeding the health system dry.
We used to have a program called the Bracero program which provided for legal entry into the US to work for a limited time, mostly as agricultural workers. It was regulated by having contractors account for their workers location and provide them with basic needs of housing and transportation. The Dems under Kennedy repealed the program for the benefit of the unions.
A new and improved Bracero plan would include approval of applicants, regulation and deductions of taxes. In effect, it would be a super Green card with no provision for citizenship. It could work when what we are currently doing doesn’t.
No. I avoided those type of questions because I wanted honest answers and didn’t want to seem as though I was attacking. The bottom line from the discussion was it was all about money. They even went on to explain the differences within the two societies. According to the one young man, they try and live their lives as Christians whereas in his opinion most in our society don’t.
Best comment yet.
I ve known several and they dont care about voting or becoming citizens. Not sure what percentage, but i would think a lot dont care. The liberals do though, they want their vote.
Felipe was a member of Mexico’s PAN party which is economically conservative, as apposed to socialist or leftist like the party that ran mexico for most all of the 20th century.
While obviously he can’t directly answer your question he would proably say that most of Mexico’s economic problems are a result of Mexico’s Government both presently(due to remaining economically repressive & corrupt policies) and most particularly historically(As under Socialist- leftist corrupt & economic repression Mexico never developed the competitive free market we have).
Leftist Mexicans and their vindictive race-bating American supporters on the other hand of course blame all of Mexico’s problems on some capitalist force. If that were true Mexico would not now be making a recovery under NAFTA. Of course Mexico will never equal the USA in property until either the US is dragged by leftist to adopt the same or worse economically repressive politics or Mexico abandons those economically repressive politics. Even then It will take generations.
Sure; I think the problem now is that the young illegals have no confidence they’ll get anything meaningful back down the road.
They’ll fund the retirements of the dwindling number of Anglos now, and decades down the road the Hispanic half of this country will be debating with the Asian half as to how to keep the program solvent (and the retirement age will be 105).
"Catholics," they surmised. "Strong family values," they opined. "Very hard (and very cheap) workers," the C'o'C Members could see. "Why they's jes gonna be natural born Republicans," Rove told them.
Amazingly, the GOPe, as typified by la familia Boosh and your Congressional Representatives, still believe this as an article of Republican Establishment Faith. They will believe it well past the day, 100 years from today, when Aztlán votes to secede from the Union and rejoin México.
We know the Companeros won't vote. They'll pull the pistols and try to do a Villa.
We don't need no steenken' elections mahn...dees ees ahr lahnd, Greengo!
But Calderon is right. Unlike Americans, Mexican nationalism is intense and deep, reinforced by shared ethnicity. There are no hyphenated Mexicans, they'd end up dead.
While my nominal position is mass deportation, it would certainly be far better then the current situation to have an expanded Bracero program tied to U.S. unemployment rates. But we should get more for go along with such a thing:
- The end of "Hispanics" as a Protected Class. Nixon did this to retaliate against the Rats and it was supposed to be temporary. There is no reason to continue to disprivilege 10th generation Americans relative to Mexicans simply because they have a crap country and we beat them in a war.
- The end of Birthright Citizenship for the children of illegal aliens. There have been 5 or 6 bills to do this and none have passed. Would actually go further: amend the Constitution to clarify the 14th Amendment's Jus Soli clause. It was written poorly in 1868, needs to be precise. Illegal Alien parents shouldn't be deciding who our citizenry is.
- The end of "family reunification" as the chief test for immigration to the United States. This will end Chain Immigration from Mexico and the rest of the Third World. It was a lie to start with and it should end; I'd like the 1924 Act to be reinstated, but that's hoping for too much. Should be strict quotas for resident immigrants with a point system.
I could think of more but you get the idea: make a deal where we get rid of a lot of bad things in return for going along with some of the existing situation.
If all Latino immigration, legal and illegal, were to end tonight at midnight, it will have scant effect on demographic arithmetic. Our progeny are still going to live in the hemisphere's northernmost Latin American Country. Right now, Latinos are at least 1/3 of the population. Roughly speaking 100 million and growing. Those "11 million" illegal aliens? That's California alone!
Will we look more like Chile? Or more like Bolivia? Ask me after CW II, if I am still around. As a Latin American country, you see, we too will devolve into revolution on a more or less regular basis.
Actually the former president makes a lot more sense than the GOPe on the issue. I have been making the same argument here for years.
He is talking about a non-immigrant program in which they come up for a few months a year and then go back home. Why would them go back home, because its very expensive to maintain a year round residence when you only have work 6 months out of the year. Our current policy forces them to bring up their families which leads to most of the costs and problems we currently have.
I would prefer this program to what we have now or what is being proposed.
With this program there is no path to anything, not citizenship, not full residency. The path only leads back to Mexico with a fat wallet.
I am all for it.
Some might want to do that. There would still be the trash that want to be here and suck us dry. FREE stuff!
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