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Does Europe Have No-Go Zones?
Algemeiner ^ | January 23, 2015 | Daniel Pipes

Posted on 01/23/2015 5:28:33 PM PST by SJackson

Comments by Steven Emerson on Fox News have prompted a heated debate over whether predominantly Muslim “no-go zones” exist in Europe.

On Jan. 11, Emerson said they “exist throughout Europe … they’re places where the governments like France, Britain, Sweden, Germany don’t exercise any sovereignty. .. you basically have zones where Shariah courts were set up, where Muslim density is very intense, where the police don’t go in, and where it’s basically a separate country almost, a country within a country.”

Although Emerson, whom I admire for his moral courage and investigative skills, immediately apologized for his “terrible error” of saying that cities like Birmingham, England, “are totally Muslim where non-Muslims just simply don’t go,” he did not address the larger question of whether no-go zones, in fact, do “exist throughout Europe” and are there places where governments “don’t exercise any sovereignty.”

Is he right about this?

In a 2006 weblog entry, I called Muslim enclaves in Europe “no-go zones” as a non-euphemistic equivalent for the French phrase Zones Urbaines Sensibles, or Sensitive Urban Zones. “No-go zones” subsequently became standard in English to describe Muslim-majority areas in West Europe.

After spending time in the banlieues (suburbs) of Paris in January 2013, as well as in their counterparts in Athens, Berlin, Brussels, Copenhagen, Malmö, and Stockholm, however, I have had second thoughts.

I found that those areas “are not full-fledged no-go zones” – meaning places where the government had lost control of territory. No war lords dominate; Shariah is not the law of the land. I expressed regret back then for having used the term “no-go zones.”

So, what are these places? A unique and as-yet un-named mix.

On the one hand, West European states can intervene anywhere and at any time in their sovereign territory. As the shoot-out in Verviers and the subsequent raids in Belgium suggest, their overwhelming advantage in force – including military, intelligence, and police – means they have not ceded control.

On the other hand, governments often choose not to impose their will on Muslim-majority areas, allowing them considerable autonomy, including in some cases the Shariah courts that Emerson mentioned. Alcohol and pork are effectively banned in these districts, polygamy and burqas commonplace, police enter only warily and in force, and Muslims get away with offenses illegal for the rest of population.

The Rotherham, England, child sex scandal offers a powerful example. An official inquiry found that for 16 years, from 1997-2013, a ring of Muslim men sexually exploited – through abduction, rape, gang rape, trafficking, prostitution, torture – at least 1,400 non-Muslim girls as young as 11. The police received voluminous complaints from the girls’ parents but did nothing; they could have acted, but chose not to.

According to the inquiry, “the Police gave no priority to CSE [child sexual exploitation], regarding many child victims with contempt and failing to act on their abuse as a crime.”

Even more alarming, in some cases, “fathers tracked down their daughters and tried to remove them from houses where they were being abused, only to be arrested themselves when police were called to the scene.”

Worse, the girls “were arrested for offences such as breach of the peace or being drunk and disorderly, with no action taken against the perpetrators of rape and sexual assault against children.”

Another example, also in Britain, was the so-called Operation Trojan Horse that flourished from 2007 to 2014, in which (again, according to an official inquiry), a group of school functionaries developed “a strategy to take over a number of schools in Birmingham and run them on strict Islamic principles.”

What does one call Rotherham and Birmingham? They are not no-go zones, neither in terms of geography or sovereignty. This is where we – Emerson, others (such as Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal), and I stumbled.

The English language lacks a readily-available term for this. And for good reason: I know of no historical parallel, in which a majority population accepts the customs and even the criminality of a poorer and weaker immigrant community. The world has never seen anything comparable to the contemporary West’s blend of achievement, timidity, and guilt, of hugely superior power matched by a deep reluctance to use it.

Instead of “no-go zones,” I propose “semi-autonomous sectors,” a term that emphasizes their indistinct and non-geographic nature – thus permitting a more accurate discussion of what is, arguably, West Europe’s most acute problem.


TOPICS: Editorial; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: europe; islam; nogozones
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To: pepsionice

That’s really surprising news about Frankfurt.

I haven’t been there in decades, but I recall the central train station being quite close to the financial district.

Since Frankfurt is probably the fourth most important financial center in the world, I’m surprised they tolerate that.


21 posted on 01/24/2015 2:01:46 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: SJackson

Of course there are ‘no go’ zones. Anybody that has ever been around one knows exactly what they are. Just because it is not officially labeled such by some government entity or official doesn’t make it any less true.


22 posted on 01/24/2015 2:13:04 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: zeestephen

If you walk out of the train station...ten steps out....to around five minutes out walking...that’s the area to avoid after dark. Beyond that...about another ten minutes walking is the upscale area (German version of Wall Street). Night and day.

For about ten years, mid-80s to mid-90s....in the subway area just in front of the train-station...drugs openly sold, heron shot on the spot, etc. Train station ended up hiring private security and chasing them out....whole station is clean and safe now. But the zone outside of the place is only relatively safe in daylight hours. City parks still stay clean....only because of continuous cop presence.


23 posted on 01/24/2015 2:16:25 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice
I remember that drug use and drug sales were shockingly out in the open in some of the big city parks in Switzerland.

At one point Switzerland actually gave free heroin and methadone to addicts.

They had to register and have a medical exam first, then, they were issued a free dose, given a one-time-use sterile syringe, and had to shoot up inside the clinic.

24 posted on 01/24/2015 3:13:36 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

All of that stuff still continues. Everyone has proven that you can’t wipe out the stuff...might as well contain the “herd” in one location and just let them die off one by one. Most still end up with hepatitis or HIV...requiring medical costs somewhere in the mix.


25 posted on 01/24/2015 3:19:23 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: BRK

The first name is most accurate, I agree BRK. AND it is the one that will stick. It’s easy to say, it means what it says, it is not PC, and the French Mayor cannot stop us from saying in, here on this side of the Pond. Plus, English is OUR language, so she is way out of her league here.


26 posted on 01/24/2015 6:23:18 AM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: SJackson

Whether a poorly chosen “no-go zones”, or Zones Urbaines Sensibles, or “semi-autonomous zones”, either term is trying to portray a feature common to all of them - Muslims immigrating to Europe NOT to enjoy or adopt western European values, but, to where possible, provide zones where non-western values are to be promoted and when possible imposed.


27 posted on 01/24/2015 3:35:04 PM PST by Wuli
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