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Governor: Legalizing pot was bad idea
The Hill ^ | January 23, 2015 | Kevin Cirilli

Posted on 01/23/2015 7:13:21 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Colorado’s decision to legalize marijuana was a bad idea, the state’s governor said Friday.

Gov. John Hickenlooper, a Democrat who opposed the 2012 decision by voters to make pot legal, said the state still doesn’t fully know what the unintended consequences of the move will be.

If I could've waved a wand the day after the election, I would've reversed the election and said, 'This was a bad idea,’” Hickenlooper said Friday on CNBC's “Squawk Box.”

“You don't want to be the first person to do something like this,” he said.

He said that he tells other governors to “wait a couple of years” before legalizing marijuana as Colorado continues to navigate an unknown, non-existing federal regulatory landscape for the industry.

“There's a whole regulatory environment... that really regulates alcohol,” he said. “We're starting from scratch and we don't have a federal partner because [marijuana] is still illegal federally.”

In February 2014, the Obama administration released guidelines for the marijuana industry indicating the federal officials would not target financial institutions or businesses engaging in selling pot as long as those businesses were compliant with state laws.

Despite the guidelines, banks are reluctant to finance marijuana businesses in states where it is legal because federal law still lists marijuana as an illegal drug. Congress would need to pass a law removing that language.

Marijuana is legal in four states: Colorado, Oregon, Alaska and Washington. Congress has blocked the District of Columbia from legalizing pot after voters in November cast ballots that they wanted to make the drug legal.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska; US: Colorado; US: District of Columbia; US: Oregon; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: buyersremorse; cannabis; dontbogartthatjoint; drugs; federalism; johnhickenlooper; legaldope; marijuana; nannystate; pot; potheads; warondrugs; wod
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To: DiogenesLamp

Have you been smoking? Maybe you’re actually a plant in favor of pot by putting out enough strawmen. (Hempmen?)

Correlation is not causation. I’m seeing a bunch of cheap shots here.


141 posted on 01/23/2015 12:11:58 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
How many pot users are serial killers? Almost none of them.

if all those serial killers were pot users, then all those specific pot users were serial killers.

Which part of "almost" did you not understand?

142 posted on 01/23/2015 12:12:33 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: central_va
The pro pot Nazi’s are out in full force.

I wouldn't call them "Nazis" more like Anarchists.

My understanding of the political spectrum looks like this.

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[Liberals (total government control)]<-[Conservatives (Only so much government as necessary)]->[Libertarians] (Not enough government to keep society functional.)

143 posted on 01/23/2015 12:12:54 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp

That sounds like a risky scheme at best, quite likely to get police raiding him at midnight when one of these lasses spilled the beans.


144 posted on 01/23/2015 12:14:37 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Monty22002
Just watch, the opiates will be next. Already have seen some on here pushing for full access of them. They won’t be satisfied with just pot, they’ll go for acid, heroin, meth, coke, everything. It’s like gay marriage. Get the camel’s nose under the tent with the medical scam and then push and push. Drugs cause the users’ to push even harder than the gay marriage/superiority issue though.

It is EXACTLY like "gay" marriage. There is no end point in sight because they will keep moving the goal posts.

145 posted on 01/23/2015 12:15:19 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: ConservingFreedom

I laugh because there is more than one poxy house around here.

I don’t recommend anyone giving his or her mind away to pot, or alcohol, or anything else if its usage isn’t blessed of God. That’s just plain asking for trouble.

But, it looks like a new edition of Reefer Madness is being written here too.

When the state presumes to do Every Single Thing that God was traditionally called upon to do, you get a humongous disappointment.


146 posted on 01/23/2015 12:17:59 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

He was mrleroy for a long time, awhile ago. Then justsaynotonannies. He’s an old timer for sure with the same exact message the whole time.


147 posted on 01/23/2015 12:22:03 PM PST by Monty22002
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To: DiogenesLamp
humanity's contact with alcohol is so old that we actually evolved genes to process it.

And cannabis evolved to mimic the human body's naturally produced endocannabinoids - or perhaps the other way around.

148 posted on 01/23/2015 12:22:18 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: central_va

You are depending on it, it seems. Gee, if the government says it is ok, then it makes it harder for you to raise your children. The government is always going to do something that is contradictory to morally sound parenting choices. That is why the government shouldn’t be in the business of regulating morality. Period.

There are things they are constitutionally required to provide us, the rest of it is an overreach of their powers.


149 posted on 01/23/2015 12:25:56 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: Monty22002
Careful with that stone-throwing, Monty22001/Monty22.
150 posted on 01/23/2015 12:26:25 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: tacticalogic
That's in the Commerce Clause. The power to regulate commerce with foreign nations covers anything coming across the border.

You think people ship chemical weapons into this nation are engaging in commerce?

Perhaps you don't remember this, but a few years ago, Brian Williams (currently of ABC News) once shipped Uranium into the country to demonstrate how easy it was for terrorists to do it.

Do you think he was engaging in "Commerce"?

Do you think people sending Anthrax through the mail are engaging in Commerce?

I dare say "commerce" does not extend to the illegal shipment of dangerous/deadly substances across our borders. Such things are attacks on our people and our sovereignty.

151 posted on 01/23/2015 12:29:57 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp
You think people ship chemical weapons into this nation are engaging in commerce?

Those who ship mind-altering drugs make money from it - money voluntarily paid by those to whom it is shipped. How is that not commerce?

152 posted on 01/23/2015 12:33:33 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ican'tbelieveit

We are talking about the state government not the federal. This is a Colorado law.


153 posted on 01/23/2015 12:36:15 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: A CA Guy

I’m telling you I’m against drug abuse but forced prohibition will NOT stop or help the issue.

The only way to reduce abuse and addiction is an overall spiritual and educational improvement in our society so few people feel the need to abuse drugs.

Prohibition is not helping us achieve this since the control required and inevitable corruption always results in spiritual decay. Few people are caught in the drug dragnet since there is no victim so there will never be enough control to reduce drug abuse without extreme surveillance of ALL people.

Even if you achieve a 100% police state it still won’t be enough. Think: even in prisons people routinely use any drugs they want! The ONLY difference is the higher price and who they pay.

This mentality of trying to control abuse by force has created a militarized police state under the guise of imprisoning mentally ill boogiemen (jumkies!) and playing a wack-a-mole arms race with endless dealers.


154 posted on 01/23/2015 12:37:27 PM PST by varyouga
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Clean your light bulb, bub. Even if every murderer smoked pot, that doesn’t prove every (or even most) pot smokers are murderers... what kind of craziness is this, maybe it rivals that of smoking pot.

The argument is that tampering with your brain chemistry is more likely to set off people in our general population who aren't wired all that well in the first place. In other words, it brings out psychoses that might not otherwise manifest.

That it worsens psychoses that do.

155 posted on 01/23/2015 12:37:43 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: central_va

Because EVERY other drug is toxic and/or chemically addictive.

Pot use in adults has no proven side effects beyond temporary impairment. Period


156 posted on 01/23/2015 12:39:40 PM PST by varyouga
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To: DiogenesLamp

“Tampering” in just what manner? Alcohol is known to fuel more rages than pot is. Yet used in a responsible context, alcohol is a wonderful comestible.

Again, the name of the game is responsibility. People are not meant to live either in vacuums or in rubber rooms.


157 posted on 01/23/2015 12:42:37 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: varyouga

Bull crap, you’ve never met some of my high school friends.


158 posted on 01/23/2015 12:43:08 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: varyouga

Bullshit. Lower IQs and increased schizophrenia are about as proven as can be. Hell, just anecdotal evidence alone from anyone with any connection or common sense to reality shows that it kills motivation and intelligence.


159 posted on 01/23/2015 12:44:13 PM PST by Monty22002
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Projection makes you look silly

You are asserting I am "Projecting" because I make a point to respond on this topic whenever it gets brought up?

I respond on a whole series of topics, you should check out my message stream sometime. As a matter of fact, I believe it is the duty of conservatives to stand up and fight these fights when they are thrust upon us. As Barry Goldwater said:

"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."

Do you know what I do not do? I do not start these threads about Pot. I do not post comments saying we need to *CHANGE* the existing culture. Changing the culture is generally what the Liberals do, we conservatives keep pointing out that all their "changes" are not improvements, and in fact make matters worse.

Well that is what *I* am doing. I am forthrightly and aggressively defending the current culture which is under assault by the dope smoking hedonists of the Libertarian movement.

So if You think i'm obsessive about it, remember that I would be silent if others weren't trying to tamper with it. I'm responding, not causing.

160 posted on 01/23/2015 12:44:54 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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