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Papal Text Says Man Betrays God by Destroying the Environment
Reuters and The New York Times ^ | 18 Jan 15 | Philip Pullella

Posted on 01/18/2015 3:38:10 PM PST by SkyPilot

MANILA — Pope Francis waded into the global debate on climate change and the environment on Sunday, saying in the text of a speech that man was destroying nature and betraying God's calling to be stewards of creation.

Francis offered his thoughts about the environment and climate change for the second time in four days at a rally with young people at a Manila university on the last full day of a week-long Asian tour that has taken him to Sri Lanka and the Philippines.

He did not read all of a speech prepared for delivery at the university, improvising after he was moved by the story of an abandoned girl. When he does this, the Vatican says the prepared text is official.

"As stewards of God’s creation, we are called to make the earth a beautiful garden for the human family. When we destroy our forests, ravage our soil and pollute our seas, we

betray that noble calling," he said in the text.

Another line he read to the crowd noted that "this country, more than many others, is likely to be seriously affected by climate change".

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: catholic; earthworship; pope; popezacola; vatican
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To: clintonh8r

Lol - that’s about right. He made statements in Manila that would make Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, and Al Gore proud.


61 posted on 01/18/2015 4:33:28 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“If you care about Christian things for the sake of Christ, then it will make sense to affiliate with some church even if it isn’t perfect (and if it was perfect, it would cease to be so once you joined)”

Maybe so, but at least I wouldn’t have tolerated gay pedophiles abusing children or promoted the destructive liberal agenda. As a joke I might have said “I wouldn’t join any church that would have me for a member”, but actually I think associating with such an org would further tarnish my reputation.


62 posted on 01/18/2015 4:34:07 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Well, ‘tude, God doesn’t consider it all that wonderful a favor from you to deign to go to a church.


63 posted on 01/18/2015 4:35:37 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: CptnObvious
But the Amazing thing is that God made the first sacrifice for their clothing out of animal skins - symbolizing the sacrifice of His son in the place of folks like us. Anyone who believes it is Christ alone that atoned their sins may escape the penalty of their sins (eternal punishment) and have abundant life everlasting instead.

Exactly. Propitiation (blood sacrifice) was required, and God demonstrated that by clothing Adam and Eve in the skin of dead animals.

Christ said the Son of Man "came not be served, but to serve." This pope will kiss people's feet or show faux humility for the cameras (always, always in front of the cameras). However, it is demonstrably obvious he is all about power. His.

64 posted on 01/18/2015 4:36:28 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot

Reaping the bounty of the earth is neither good or bad, if done with a clear conscience of faith. After hundreds of millions of years, the earth has not always been the paradise it is now and certainly will not remain so in the future. We are in a Goldilocks period and yet we fret over inevitable change.


65 posted on 01/18/2015 4:38:07 PM PST by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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To: SkyPilot

“As stewards of God’s creation, we are called to make the earth a beautiful garden for the human family. When we destroy our forests, ravage our soil and pollute our seas, we betray that noble calling..”

I agree with this, which is why opposing socialism is so important. Nowhere has environmental destruction and a blind eye to the consequences of pollution been more rampant than in communist/socialist dictatorships. The idea that conservatives are anti-environment is untrue, and shouldn’t be tolerated.

If any of us believed that the data were truly showing/supportive of the anthropomorphic destruction of our planetary environment, we would be in favor of aggressive action. As it is, most of us, I would presume, are in favor of seeking out technological advancements that allow us to produce cleaner energy in a sustainable manner. We don’t, however, think that in the absence of those technologies, unilaterally destroying our economy by drastically altering our energy use makes any sense - especially given that the data are by no means definitive, or even consistent.


66 posted on 01/18/2015 4:39:35 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: SkyPilot

Taking the lid off of the environmental pandora’s box in this manner pretty well guarantees it will be a power play.

A more thoughtful pontiff would have arranged for some kind of quiet private study. Not hopping on the nearest bandwagon that sounded vaguely like Christian teaching.

If there is something like an environmental sin it would be like the gross pollution in Beijing, where the tradeoff is pretty much only the filthy lucre that Francis is turning his nose up at. When it is a question of human survival vs. a nice environment the question is more difficult.


67 posted on 01/18/2015 4:40:14 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: SkyPilot

Comrade Pope espousing his Marxist/Leninist economics and his environmental Global Warming Jihad is definitely not gathering a conservative following.


68 posted on 01/18/2015 4:45:44 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Benghazi Clinton killed 4 & injured a dozen as SOS, imagine what she could do as CinC.)
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To: SkyPilot

Here’s some more from the apostates greatest hits

“God always forgives, but the earth does not.”

“Take care of the earth so it does not respond with destruction.” 


69 posted on 01/18/2015 4:47:29 PM PST by Kaosinla (The More the Plans Fail. The More the Planners Plan.)
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To: old curmudgeon

The Pope did not say that. We are supposed to respect all creation because it comes from God. We should treat it as the gift it is. Which means to use it wisely for our benefit and not to squander it. Being stewards of creation does not mean to worship nature. It does mean that we must remember that as Christians we are to embrace practices that will uphold the dignity of the human person and help them live better lives. Destroying land and water that people depend on for their livelyhoods is wrong.


70 posted on 01/18/2015 4:50:03 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: Kaosinla

Ahhh watch out, Gaia will take a vengeance that even God can’t stop.

Hey Pope. They smarter than that at the Baptist church down the street. How about visiting it.


71 posted on 01/18/2015 4:50:21 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: SkyPilot

That was from his visit to Comic-Con, right?


72 posted on 01/18/2015 5:08:37 PM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: SkyPilot; All

And the pope does it again


73 posted on 01/18/2015 5:10:00 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Steelfish
Francis is simply calling man to the Christian virtue of using resources in a manner that does not threaten human extinction. This is not a liberal issue and for God’s sake we ought not to engage in knee jerk reaction and surrender the preservation of the environment to the liberals and secularists.

No, it sounds like he wants the EPA version of "stewardship" where the Earth reigns supreme and Man has no business in exercising "his dominion" over it.

74 posted on 01/18/2015 5:14:03 PM PST by VeniVidiVici ( Better a conservative teabagger than a liberal teabagee)
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To: SkyPilot

they paved over a lot of mother gaia to make vatican city.

when will he get rid of the obvious former sins of his predecessors?


75 posted on 01/18/2015 5:19:41 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SpaceBar

Ted Kaczynski could be a speech writer.


76 posted on 01/18/2015 5:19:58 PM PST by Zuse (I am disrupted! I am offended! I am insulted! I am outraged!)
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To: justa-hairyape

My parents are Roman Catholic. I have told them that I am afraid that the Catholic Church has just joined ECUSA, PCUSA, UCC, and ELCA. It was hard for them, but they replied that they thought I could be right, especially when Cardinal Burke was given the bums rush.
It comes down to not which church you go to, but in the end where do you stand with Christ.
The structure of the Catholic Church is for the most part top down. Is it still possible for the individual churches or even dioceses to fight the rot?


77 posted on 01/18/2015 5:27:17 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: 9YearLurker
The pope actually says something I agree with—and Freepers are trashing him? Does man not have dominion over animals, and does that not suggest a custodial relationship?

Yes it does. That statement by itself is not even controversial.

He goes on to blab on about recycling and global warming. If that is a minor part of his remarks, then OK, whatever. He's an idiot for believing in global warming but half the people in the world believe it.

The problem is that the world is dying without Christ. And the problem is that Christians are being slaughtered as we speak. I would love to hear a major leader in the Christian world actually evangelizing. And speaking up for the martyred brethren.

78 posted on 01/18/2015 5:28:34 PM PST by marron
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To: RetiredTexasVet

I am expecting any day now that this clown will come out for birth control and abortion as a way of saving the planet.


79 posted on 01/18/2015 5:29:14 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: marron

Ah, global warming is an unfortunate claim. But we really know he’s a liberation theologist anyway, don’t we?


80 posted on 01/18/2015 5:31:22 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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