Posted on 01/17/2015 2:31:16 PM PST by BigReb555
During Robert E. Lee's 100th birthday in 1907, Charles Francis Adams, Jr., a former Union Commander and grandson of US President John Quincy Adams, spoke in tribute to Robert E. Lee at Washington and Lee College's Lee Chapel in Lexington, Virginia. His speech was printed in both Northern and Southern newspapers and is said to had lifted Lee to a renewed respect among the American people.
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Looks like you got a “thing” for Robert E. Lee, too...
Lee’s personal journals! Tell me more! Where can we read them? They don’t seem to have been published anywhere.
The United States was fighting the war because of a massive rebellion against the government. It was the south that instigated the rebellion in order to protect what they perceived as the threat to slavery posed by Lincoln's election, as innumerable contemporary documents will attest. Claiming that the US was fighting the confederacy because of slavery is sorta like saying that the US fought Japan because of the trade embargoes imposed on them. That may be the reason THEY attacked, but it's not the reason WE responded.
I’ll admit feeling sorry for Lee, by all accounts a good man dragged into a bad cause.
I thought Heinz Guderian pioneered the blitzkrieg concepts. Rommel was an infantry officer.
There is ample documentation of this.
Where?
If there wasn't such a program before the war why do you think there would have been one after the war?
Some say after a Southern victory, General Lee would have proposed a program to free slaves over time, if I may take a guess, the program would have most likely involved a resettlement of them back to Africa (Liberia maybe) or maybe an offer for a Confederate State out west to settle in.
Wouldn't the Confederate Constitution have forbidden such a scheme? There was a very clear clause forbidding Congress from passing any legislation impairing the right of property in slaves.
Lee never wrote a personal journal. Never wrote a memoir. So what are you referring to?
You finally learned to read, Spivey? LOL! :)
The metaphor I wrote in post #183:
Kiryandil wrote: "Debating" some of these Neo-Union trolls reminds me of debating Private Spivey from Dances With Wolves.
Spivey sez: "Might makes Right! Talk to Sarge here if'n yew don't like it!"
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Don't descend to the Spivey level, DoodleDawg. We've already got a couple of them wiping their posteriors with Lee's good name.
You really don’t have anything to defend your position other than ad hominems, do you?
Lost Causers tend to have fertile imaginations. They imagine Robert E. Lee leading a post-war effort to free the slaves, they imagine the mechanization of southern agriculture that didn’t come until the 1940s would have appeared decades earlier, they imagine that the southern leadership really didn’t care about slavery and the war was about tariff policy, and now they imagine that Lee kept a journal.
Very creative from what I’ve seen so far.
And apparently from the other thread, they imagine that Robert E. Lee was some kind of zombie nurse. Maybe they got that from his journals.
I don’t have a “position”, Spivey.
I will give you credit for beating your one movie reference into the ground. But if you don’t care enough to have a position on the subject at hand, why are you bothering to argue? Is it to prove that you’ve seen a movie?
agreed
I have NEVER in any of my posts defended anything about slavery or whatever it is you cal southern culture. So get off your high horse. Lee was a man of principles. He resigned his oath and went home to his state. He never claimed to have fought for slavery. I will not dis a man for fighting for his principles.
I do not have a need to show you my chops on civil rights, segregation, or anything else. I never saw you at anything so I know you weren’t there
Why does it not surprise me to find you’re a big Putin booster on FR?
He resigned....you apparently consider that sacrilegious. I don’t. You have ignored so much more of Lee’s life before and after the Civil War it isn’t even funny
I'm a Yankee, and none of my grandparents even arrived in this country until after 1900.
I just respect American history, and great Americans.
I don't wipe my @ss with their memory, unlike the Spiveys of Free Republic.
I ran across this quote in my travels:
[Robert Edward] Lee, despite facing constant shortages of men and supplies, meets the overwhelming forces of the Northern States and defeats them in battle after battle. Yet after each defeat the Northerners simply recruit new soldiers, resupply their vast armies, and come after Lee's valiant but shrinking forces again and again. In the end not even Lee's tactical genius can save the outnumbered and outgunned Confederates from eventual defeat.
Thank you for being an American, General Lee.
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