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Obama: Europe should better integrate Muslims
the straits times ^ | 1/17/15

Posted on 01/17/2015 12:46:50 PM PST by bestintxas

US President Barack Obama on Friday urged European governments to try to better assimilate their Muslim minority populations as they respond to extremist attacks like last week’s shootings in Paris. At a White House news conference with British Prime Minister David Cameron, his first foreign guest since last week’s Charlie Hebdo massacre, Obama said the allies would stand by France. But he also warned that the answer to the recent violence must not simply be a security crackdown. “I know David joins me when I say that we will continue to do everything in our power to help France seek the justice that is needed, and that all our countries are working together seamlessly to prevent attacks and to defeat these terrorist networks,” Obama said. Obama said the Paris attacks “underscored how terrorist groups like Al-Qaeda and ISIL (ISIS) are actively trying to inspire and support people within our own countries to engage in terrorism.” The US leader said the 2013 Boston marathon bombing showed that the United States was not entirely safe from Islamic militant cells, but suggested that it had had more success than others in integrating minorities. “Our biggest advantage, major, is that our Muslim populations feel themselves to be Americans and there is this incredible process of immigration and assimilation that is part of our tradition,” he said. “There are parts of Europe in which that’s not the case... it’s important for Europe not to simply respond with a hammer and law enforcement and military approaches to these problems.” - See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/world/united-states/story/europe-needs-better-integrate-muslim-communities-obama-20150117#sthash.wupbGA1g.dpuf

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12 butchered like dogs in Paris and the Muslim of America says they are victims.

This man will not survive.

1 posted on 01/17/2015 12:46:50 PM PST by bestintxas
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To: bestintxas

urged European governments to try to better assimilate ....

its not ABOUT govenments Obie

Societies are made of PEOPLE...Not Goverments

yur Mooselim Terrorist Islamicist Pals..do not want to be assimilated and You Know it you shameless fraud


2 posted on 01/17/2015 12:49:08 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: bestintxas

Europeans let them in. Europeans attacked ANYONE who dissented, and called them ‘Islamophobic’. They reap what they sow.

The lesson is, we need less Muslims in the USA, and definitely NONE on intelligence committees, regardless of what Stretch Pelosi thinks!


3 posted on 01/17/2015 12:50:37 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: bestintxas

Who knew it was so easy?

But then again, when you can lower the seas, and heal the planet, everything comes naturally.


4 posted on 01/17/2015 12:50:55 PM PST by PGR88
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To: bestintxas

They don’t want to integrate you moron. Like you they want to dictate.


5 posted on 01/17/2015 12:52:09 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: bestintxas

When it comes to advice, Obola is full of it.


6 posted on 01/17/2015 12:52:19 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: bestintxas

“Drink ye this hemlock forthwith!”


7 posted on 01/17/2015 12:52:23 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: bestintxas
...“I know David joins me...

Whatever world leaders call each other in private is up to them. But referring to another world leader by his first name in public is ignorant and disrespectful.

To me, FDR was a scumbag. But I can't imagine him on a radio broadcast, saying "I just met with Winnie and Joe...".

8 posted on 01/17/2015 12:52:29 PM PST by ChicagahAl (Don't blame me. I voted for Sarah.)
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To: bestintxas
Kinda one sided expecting governments to integrate foreigners. Shouldn't the new comers take part in the culture they enter in stead of try to change the country? Shows perfectly 0bamas preference for his religion of choice
9 posted on 01/17/2015 12:52:38 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Oh. He just means the euros need to assimilate themselves... To sharia

Problem is, the western world hates Christianity so much, they won’t admit it, their devotion to sex with no attachments is so great, that the vacuum has allowed this

It’s religious.


10 posted on 01/17/2015 12:54:10 PM PST by stanne
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To: bestintxas

Translation.... It’s the French Fault for the shooting.


11 posted on 01/17/2015 12:57:37 PM PST by Enlightened1
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To: stanne

Oh that Obie would simply refrain from running his mouth until he really has something of value to say.


12 posted on 01/17/2015 1:00:21 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: bestintxas

The only good mooselimb is a dead mooselimb.


13 posted on 01/17/2015 1:00:49 PM PST by Joe Boucher (The F.B.I. Is a division of holders Justice Dept. (Nuff said))
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It’s interesting the way socialists approach theological concepts but when it comes to Islam they are not the only ones who refuse to approach the issue. That even includes leading Christian clergy including Pope Francis.

Followers of Mohammed not only claim, but truly believe that God has authorized them to kill those who refuse to submit to their version of God’s will. That is a basic tenet of that religion. A claim which goes unchallanged. While it’s understandable for atheists which most socialists are, not to approach that claim on a theological basis. It’s bewildering why any Christian clergy refuse to admit it even exists and is a basic part of Islam creed and worse yet are unable to condem it.

The Koran and its enforcement of sharia law is a pseudo religious concoction using monotheistic selected texts taken and misconstrued from the new and old testaments. Both of which cite the Almighty has granted free will to accept or obey his laws and is the final judge not man. Sodom and Gahmora is a glaring example.

Yet followers of Mohammed under the severest of penalties are forbidden to read either which would refute that assertion in a creed which institutionalizes disgusting arab tribal views, observances,and customs. Claiming adhearants are authorized by our Creator to demand submission to it or suffer an ignominious death administered by followers of Islam.

http://www.theusmat.com/islamandfreewill.htm


14 posted on 01/17/2015 1:08:03 PM PST by mosesdapoet (Some of my best rebuttals are in FR's along with meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Joe Boucher

Are there any muslim freepers?


15 posted on 01/17/2015 1:08:46 PM PST by JohnnyP
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To: Viennacon
The lesson is, we need less Muslims in the USA.

No, you're wrong. We actually need fewer Muslims. A lot fewer, actually.

Signed,

The Grammar Police

16 posted on 01/17/2015 1:10:08 PM PST by Maceman
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To: mountainlion
ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE - THE MYTH

THE MYTH OF THE RELIGION OF PEACE...

What Did the Saints Say about Islam?

Spirit Daily ^ | August 12, 2014 | By Andrew Bieszad

JUAN de RIVERA

St. Juan de Ribera, Viceroy and Bishop of Valencia (1568-1611), Supervising the Expulsion of Moriscos; Francisco Domingo Marques, 1912

For Islamic scholars, there is a statement in the apostolic exhortation of Pope Francis, Evangelii Gaudium, which is particularly troubling:

Faced with disconcerting episodes of violent fundamentalism, our respect for true followers of Islam should lead us to avoid hateful generalisations, for authentic Islam and the proper reading of the Koran are opposed to every form of violence. (p. 253)

As the situation in the Middle East escalates, and the violence of the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS) spills rivers of innocent Christian blood, this statement seems incongruous with reality.

Popes are certainly free to have personal opinions. A Pope’s opinions, however, when shared with the public, carry more weight because of the authority of his office than would the opinions of another, lesser prelate. His words — particularly when expressed not through an interview or sermon, but an official document — signal, at least implictly, that his opinion is in fact the belief of the Church. This has a real impact on the understanding of whatever issue is being touched upon, for both Catholics and non-Catholics alike. Particularly in a modern context, where global news is instantaneously available, papal opinions spread far, and fast. Once an idea is out in the wild as something “the pope said”, it becomes difficult to ever take back. There is even a not entirely uncommon misconception that papal opinion, when it touches on any subject related to faith, rises to the level of infallibility.

It seems that there has never been so much division within the Church over basic doctrine. Catholics today argue over long-established teachings which, as recently as fifty years ago, were accepted without dissent. This division appears to permeate the Church, and can be seen not only amongst the laity, but also within the ranks of Catholicism’s highest prelates. This division relates not only to our own internal understanding of teaching about articles of faith and sacramental beliefs, but the way in which the Catholic Church should deal with other religions. It is particularly worrying that this comes at a time when Islam is rising in power, having recently exterminated the Catholic Faith from Iraq, with ever greater numbers of Muslims answering Islam’s call to jihad against Christians.

As I have taken note of the most recent round Catholic infighting over how to view the Muslim faith, I found myself revisiting a question I began pondering during my graduate studies of this growing religion: What do the saints have to say about Islam?

The following is a brief list of quotes from Catholic saints about Islam and its founder, Muhammad. This list is by no means exhaustive, but it is illustrative of how Catholics — particularly those favored sons and daughters of the Church we now know to be in heaven — viewed the Muslim faith in prior generations:

“Whoever does not embrace the Catholic Christian faith is lost, like your false prophet Muhammad.”

-St. Peter Mavimenus (d. 8th century), martyr from Gaza. Response reported in the Martyriologum Romanum when he was asked to convert to Islam by a group of Muslims.

“There is also the superstition of the Ishmaelites which to this day prevails and keeps people in error, being a forerunner of the Antichrist…. From that time to the present a false prophet named Mohammed has appeared in their midst. This man, after having chanced upon the Old and New Testaments and likewise, it seems, having conversed with an Arian monk, devised his own heresy. Then, having insinuated himself into the good graces of the people by a show of seeming piety, he gave out that a certain book had been sent down to him from heaven. He had set down some ridiculous compositions in this book of his and he gave it to them as an object of veneration.”

-St. John Damascene (d. 749), Syrian Arab Catholic monk and scholar. Quoted from his book On Heresies under the section On the Heresy of the Ishmaelites (in The Fathers of the Church. Vol. 37. Translated by the Catholic University of America. CUA Press. 1958. Pages 153-160.)

“We profess Christ to be truly God and your prophet to be a precursor of the Antichrist and other profane doctrine.”

-Sts. Habenitus, Jeremiah, Peter, Sabinian, Walabonsus, and Wistremundus (d. 851), martyrs of Cordoba, Spain. Reported in the Memoriale Sanctorum in response to Spanish Umayyad Caliph ‘Abd Ar-Rahman II’s ministers that they convert to Islam on pain of death.

“Any cult which denies the divinity of Christ, does not profess the existence of the Holy Trinity, refutes baptism, defames Christians, and derogates the priesthood, we consider to be damned.”

-Sts. Aurelius, Felix, George, Liliosa, and Natalia (d. 852), martyrs of Cordoba, Spain. Reported in the Memoriale Sanctorum in response to Spanish Umayyad Caliph ‘Abd Ar-Rahman II’s ministers that they convert to Islam on pain of death.

“On the other hand, those who founded sects committed to erroneous doctrines proceeded in a way that is opposite to this, the point is clear in the case of Muhammad. He seduced the people by promises of carnal pleasure to which the concupiscence of the flesh goads us. His teaching also contained precepts that were in conformity with his promises, and he gave free rein to carnal pleasure. In all this, as is not unexpected, he was obeyed by carnal men. As for proofs of the truth of his doctrine, he brought forward only such as could be grasped by the natural ability of anyone with a very modest wisdom. Indeed, the truths that he taught he mingled with many fables and with doctrines of the greatest falsity. He did not bring forth any signs produced in a supernatural way, which alone fittingly gives witness to divine inspiration; for a visible action that can be only divine reveals an invisibly inspired teacher of truth. On the contrary, Muhammad said that he was sent in the power of his arms—which are signs not lacking even to robbers and tyrants.”

-St. Thomas Aquinas (d. 1274), Theologian and Doctor of the Church. Quoted from his De Rationibus Fidei Contra Saracenos, Graecos, et Armenos and translated from Fr. Damian Fehlner’s Aquinas on Reasons for the Faith: Against the Muslims, Greeks, and Armenians (Franciscans of the Immaculate. 2002.).

“As we have seen, Muhammed had neither supernatural miracles nor natural motives of reason to persuade those of his sect. As he lacked in everything, he took to bestial and barbaric means, which is the force of arms. Thus he introduced and promulgated his message with robberies, murders, and bloodshedding, destroying those who did not want to receive it, and with the same means his ministers conserve this today, until God placates his anger and destroys this pestilence from the earth.

THE REST OF THE ARTICLE

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3247130/posts

As Obama has been governing ignoring the Constitution and the laws o; U.S.; Pope Francis has been ruling against the Magisterium and the tradition of the Church.

17 posted on 01/17/2015 1:10:48 PM PST by Dqban22 (Hpo<p> http://i.imgur.com/26RbAPxjpg)
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To: JohnnyP

I’m sure there are


18 posted on 01/17/2015 1:12:45 PM PST by Joe Boucher (The F.B.I. Is a division of holders Justice Dept. (Nuff said))
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To: bestintxas

No obama, no.

The muslims have very clearly shown a refusal to assimilate. Ship the ones that are currently in Europe back out, somewhere, anywhere. And don’t let any more back in.


19 posted on 01/17/2015 1:15:09 PM PST by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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Muslims don’t integrate , Obama should know that he’s a Muslim ,it also shows by how well he works with congress ,D’oh


20 posted on 01/17/2015 1:19:49 PM PST by molson209 (Blank)
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