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Ted Cruz: Loose Cannon or Libertarian Reformer?
Reason Magazine ^ | The February 2015 Issue | Glenn Garvin

Posted on 01/17/2015 9:51:20 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Optimist

Going beyond the facade of Scott Walker’s drive against the stranglehold the teachers’ unions had on Wisconsin public schools at all levels, he has governed from center-right, making the state much more business-friendly than it had been in decades, and thus attracting a lot of industry from Illinois just to the south.

My measure of just how effective any conservative or Republican in Wisconsin may be doing, is sort of gauged by how much (or how little) they attract the negative attention of the Capital Times editorial board, based in Madison, Wisconsin.

The CapTimes (Das Kapital-zeitung) used to be an afternoon paper in Madison, but it has since become a twice-weekly insert in the Wisconsin State Journal, also in Madison. The State Journal is a weakly moderate “Republican” paper, at least as likely to endorse a liberal Democrat as a “moderate” Republican. The CapTimes was started as a Progressive paper, back in the days of Bob La Follette, and has never moderated their stand on anything regarding the defense of “state-run enterprises”. They have treated Scott Walker as they would a venomous reptile, slashing and stabbing at him at every turn, and still, they could not prevail.

Anybody the CapTime editorial board hates and berates, I am all in favor of supporting. And anybody they support, is immediately suspect, in my estimation.


81 posted on 01/17/2015 1:33:30 PM PST by alloysteel (Je suis Charlie)
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To: Zeneta; ansel12
I’ve been down this road before with ansell2.

As have I.

Before too long he will be accusing you of supporting gays in the military etc, etc, etc.

I've seen him do that to someone who agreed with him on everything except one very minor implementation detail.
I found it most amusing.

He won’t answer the fundamental question you asked.

I know.
He cannot answer it because it shows that his idea of conservative is using the government in exactly the way that the liberal (statist) would: to forward his own world-view using government force.

82 posted on 01/17/2015 3:04:44 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: ansel12
Rather than let the thread be hijacked in the bottomless pit of libertarian trolling, I will repeat my answer.

Where is the libertarian trolling in asking this:
Are you for using the government for things you approve of that the Constitution does not authorize, or are you willing to hold to the Constitutional limitations especially when it is inconvenient for your personal ideals?

83 posted on 01/17/2015 3:06:25 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Senator Bentsen was VP running mate with Governor Dukakis against George H. W. Bush in 1987. His debate with Senator J. Danforth Quayle produced the famous line from Bentsen, when Quayle compared himself to JFK: “I knew John Kennedy. John Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you are no John Kennedy.”


84 posted on 01/17/2015 3:52:34 PM PST by Radtechtravel (May God bless America, keeping her home to the Brave, land of the Free. Long live the Republic.)
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To: ilgipper
Cruz was at the center of constitutional battles in front of the Supreme Court, and has yet to lose. 5-0.

Not to argue (because I don't know), how do you resolve that tally with this statement from the article above:

He argued nine cases before the U.S. Supreme Court and won five of them.

What about the other four?

85 posted on 01/17/2015 5:47:16 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Those who profess noblesse oblige regress to droit du seigneur.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nah, we need someone who is like a junkyard dog: Bold and articulately unapologetic.

Reagan was staunchly unapologetic and articulate about it. Loved it!


86 posted on 01/17/2015 7:56:20 PM PST by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: AlanGreenSpam

bttt


87 posted on 01/18/2015 2:22:53 AM PST by txhurl
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bfl


88 posted on 01/18/2015 2:31:10 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric; Cincinatus' Wife

I’m reading an article by Marc McKinnon - three years old - mentioned in this thread

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/03/ted-cruz-has-just-about-everything-in-common-with-obama-but-ideology.html

Ted Cruz Has Just About Everything in Common With Obama but Ideology


89 posted on 01/18/2015 3:00:17 AM PST by txhurl
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To: txhurl

If you can stomach giving MJ the click-thru:

Meet Ted Cruz, “The Republican Barack Obama”

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/10/ted-cruz-texas-gop-senate

Nov ‘12


90 posted on 01/18/2015 3:07:17 AM PST by txhurl
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To: txhurl

Mark McKinnon has served as principal media adviser for hundreds of campaigns for candidates, companies, and causes, including George W. Bush, John McCain, Ann Richards, Charlie Wilson, and Bono, and has helped to engineer five successful presidential primary and general elections. McKinnon is a cofounder of No Labels, a non-profit organization dedicated to bipartisanship, civil discourse, and problem solving in politics. And he is Texas co-chair of the Freedom to Marry Campaign. Mark McKinnon is Media Guy.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/contributors/mark-mckinnon.html

His piece on Jeb Bush:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/04/13/why-hillary-v-jeb-would-be-great-for-america.html

“........Interesting parallels: Gingrich burning down the house in 1996; Tea party now doing the same now. Enter a candidate like Bush, talking about the importance of a federal role in reforming education and immigration.

I chuckle when I hear “movement conservatives” talk about how it’s a different era and how Jeb Bush hasn’t run a campaign since 2002 and doesn’t understand the dynamics of the current Republican Party. You mean, the dynamics where we haven’t won the Presidency in the last two presidential elections? Oh yeah, that dynamic.

Some rabid conservatives call me a “RINO” (Republican in Name Only) or a “squish,” but it’s us “squishes” who made it possible for a Republican to be elected president the last time around. The Republican Party has indeed changed in the last decade. But most of America, the people who create majorities and elect presidents in general elections, have not.”.......


91 posted on 01/18/2015 3:15:22 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I actually don’t know anything about McKinnon, but the author of this thread refers to him a lot, and I’m trying to get inside this Glenn guy’s head.

We might be looking at the gradual transfer of Ron Paul’s base to Ted.


92 posted on 01/18/2015 3:32:30 AM PST by txhurl
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

We need a president who will do a lot more than to throw some gravel on the slippery slope.

I don’t see Jeb doing even that much.

Bush I was elected the first time because of Reagan. He then lost on the weakness of his own performance in office.

Bush II was barely elected because an extreme leftist nutcase siphoned enough votes away from a mainstream leftist nutcase. He won again because of residual anger over 9-11.

Are you saying that Bush III will win just because he will run a better campaign that the last two GOP-E losers?

No, the American people are angry, cynical, and dejected. They don’t want another Bush, and they don’t want another Obama, and they don’t want another Clinton.

They wanted change in 2008, and they got it, and they got burned. Badly.

Romney lost because he acted like he wanted to be a candidate more than he wanted to be president.

They want a change this time more than ever before.

The DemocRats won’t offer anything other than a whiter Obama, and the GOP-E won’t offer anything other than another plastic action figure candidate.

If we let the same power brokers control the process, the result will be the same.

If we mess up one more time, I don’t think we’ll get another chance.


93 posted on 01/18/2015 3:53:56 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away)
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To: txrangerette

Since you’re awake ping!


94 posted on 01/18/2015 4:18:38 AM PST by txhurl
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To: txhurl; Cincinatus' Wife

McKinnon is a gay rights activist and is not, repeat not, a conservative. Too big-government oriented to be libertarian.

As for Jeb, like Rush said, Jeb and Hillary belong on the same ticket.

You were explaining Jeb’s negatives to Cincinatus’ Wife, who merely posted information on what McKinnon is saying about Jeb. She’s not an advocate for either one - far from it.

We know about both McKinnon and Jeb - no more Bushes! - we don’t require explanations.

If others on this site need it explained, they could just be on the wrong site...


95 posted on 01/18/2015 4:43:52 AM PST by txrangerette (("...hold to the TRUTH; speak without fear". - Glenn Beck))
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To: Fresh Wind
....Are you saying that Bush III will win just because he will run a better campaign that the last two GOP-E losers?

I'm not a supporter of Jeb Bush. I wanted the readers to understand where Mark McKinnon is coming from. Period.

96 posted on 01/18/2015 4:50:16 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: txrangerette

Bump.


97 posted on 01/18/2015 4:51:35 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: txrangerette

Actually, I’m trying to divine what non-TEA MSM are circulating amongst themselves lately. This author seems to be half-attacking Cruz, but I don’t think we’re the audience... Ron Paul’s people seem to be.

I’m sorry if I appeared to be anything but curious about this McKinnon guy, who I *don’t* know anything about. Well, I do now! :)


98 posted on 01/18/2015 4:52:17 AM PST by txhurl
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To: txhurl

“....We might be looking at the gradual transfer of Ron Paul’s base to Ted.”....

If so, Paulites are sobering up.


99 posted on 01/18/2015 4:53:24 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That’s what I think - based on this article - is happening, and that’s a HUGE development.


100 posted on 01/18/2015 4:58:57 AM PST by txhurl
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