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Pope Francis: 'You cannot make fun of the faith of others'
The Telegraph ^ | 1/15/2015 | Nick Squires

Posted on 01/16/2015 7:39:02 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist

Pope Francis has weighed into the debate over freedom of expression in the wake of the religious attacks in Paris, saying that anyone who insults a religion can expect a "punch in the nose".

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He said "If my good friend Dr Gasparri says a curse word against my mother [Mary?], he can expect a punch in the nose."

Throwing a pretend punch, the Pope said: "It's normal. You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others."

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(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: catholic; charliehebdo; christianity; islam; jesuischarile; jesus; judaism; mary; mohammed; paris; popefrancis
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

the pope’s a freak. communism raising it’s ugly head.


41 posted on 01/16/2015 8:04:57 AM PST by spacejunkie2001
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I’ve noted that very same thing in other posts. That’s the nature of “freedom of speech” per our US Constitution. We must preserve that freedom of speech, and INSULT to the maximum!


42 posted on 01/16/2015 8:05:06 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Vermont Lt

That is how I see it too. Manners evolved to diminish bloodshed.


43 posted on 01/16/2015 8:06:29 AM PST by paolop
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To: Vermont Lt

“And we should be polite.”

Why should we be polite to murderous savages?


44 posted on 01/16/2015 8:07:18 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

But if you were not a Christian, why would you (in the first place) think that there were errors in your faith?


If a person did not know the Lord, they’d want to, and I would share it with them and show the error of their belief, if I did unto them as I would want done unto me.


45 posted on 01/16/2015 8:07:39 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Why do you reject it?

Do you get to mock but others don’t? Where I draw the line is violence. Violence and lethal responses are unacceptable.

Is your belief in your faith or religion or whatever so weak that you cannot stomach a little mockery of it?

If someone were to mock Jesus at that Charlie Hebdo-like march it would not affect my faith in Him one whit nor cause me to disbelieve in Him.

Do you only want marches where they mock other religions and not yours?

Then you cannot say “Je suis Charlie” as they mock just about everything religion under the sun at that mag.


46 posted on 01/16/2015 8:07:42 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
freedom of expression had its limits, especially if it involved insulting or ridiculing religion.

In a free, rational society, justice requires that one make a moral judgment about someone or something, and then give it what it deserves, which includes one's emotional responses. If a religion like mohammedanism is so irrational and evil that it deserves to be mocked, then it is correct to do so, if it is in one's rational self interest to do so.

47 posted on 01/16/2015 8:08:02 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

But does the 1 Kings example line up with “So in EVERYTHING, do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”


Yes. But remember that each thing is different. If I am wrong about something, I would want to be rebuked.


48 posted on 01/16/2015 8:08:24 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
I reject it because you don't get to make rules for me.

/johnny

49 posted on 01/16/2015 8:09:10 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: cuban leaf

How do you know that they would want to know the Lord?

And how do you know that you would want it done unto you if you were of a differing faith?

How could you know about you, if you weren’t you?


50 posted on 01/16/2015 8:10:04 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Vermont Lt
All the guy was trying to say is..., it is not polite. And we should be polite.

There are two parts to what he said - the being polite or impolite part, directed at folks like us. That's fine. But, then there is the "punch in the nose" part - his way of referring to beheading and terrorism. Thus, he is condoning the latter based on our choice of the former.

51 posted on 01/16/2015 8:10:47 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

If the Socialism and Communism in Pope Francis’ Argentine homeland worked, then, as Pope, he would have some credibility.

Just maybe the lukewarm Catholics who have been voting for liberal ideas will wake up now that they see what a real social justice Pope looks like.

Pope Francis is beginning to look at lot like ObamaLite!!!!


52 posted on 01/16/2015 8:13:28 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: JRandomFreeper

I never said I made rules for you.

I simply stated that if you 1.) truly are full-bore when it comes to free speech and 2.) attended a Charlie-Hebdo like march that mocked every faith, then you will have to stomach a little mockery of your own faith.

You can choose to not attend that march, but in doing so how could you say “Je suis Charlie”?


53 posted on 01/16/2015 8:14:48 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Of course it does. If we were following false gods that were leading us to hell, I would hope that others would point out to us our folly before it was too late.


54 posted on 01/16/2015 8:15:32 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: ctdonath2
“If the Pope doesn’t grasp the concept of “turn the other cheek”, something’s wrong.”

My first thought too.

Terrorism was committed, people were violently murdered and the pope is condemning free speech. He sounds like Obama and Clinton, blaming the Benghazi attack on a video.

55 posted on 01/16/2015 8:16:44 AM PST by FR_addict (Boehner needs to go!)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

So because Francis comes from “Socialist and Communist” Argentina, he is therefore one or both of those, and is thus ObamaLite?

I am unaware of Francis ever teaching that we should follow either of them.

If you have some info that Francis has publicly supported Socialism or Communism then I truly would be more than interested in seeing it.

But that has little to do with this thread...

We either go full bore on free speech and say “Je suis Charlie” or we don’t. It is as simple as that...


56 posted on 01/16/2015 8:19:29 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: ctdonath2

Why not, if it’s wrong? Christ did, to the beliefs of both Sadducees and Pharisees. But I guess saying “you err and know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God” must be less than making fun, as far as the pope is concerned.


57 posted on 01/16/2015 8:20:30 AM PST by mikeus_maximus
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

You see, this is why we must all believe in global climate change and not deny it because it is the high holy religion of the leftards... oops, my bad - I called them leftards.


58 posted on 01/16/2015 8:20:50 AM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Has South Park done anything with Pope Francis recently? (He sounds like he wants to make another appearance soon.)


59 posted on 01/16/2015 8:20:58 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("In a democracy people get the leaders they deserve." - Joseph de Maistre, 1753-1821)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Didn’t the Prophet Elijah make fun of the faith of the Priests of Baal? (yes, he did)


60 posted on 01/16/2015 8:23:40 AM PST by circlecity
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