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Putin's Way [PBS documentary]
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/putins-way/ ^ | 13 Jan 15 | Unknown

Posted on 01/14/2015 12:53:15 AM PST by elhombrelibre

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To: logi_cal869

Yes, an agenda of liberty is something for you to get wound up against.


21 posted on 01/14/2015 6:18:42 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: logi_cal869

What is the agenda in Putin, then, that you support and fear will be harmed by exposing his ties to organized crime?


22 posted on 01/14/2015 6:24:33 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre
I wrote:

Suddenly because what PBS produces fits someones’ agenda we’re to take it at face value?
"it" refers to PBS. Your public education refresher is not free, but I expect no compensation from one that resorts to ad hominem attacks to defend a position.

You and I are having no debate. You already lost. Had this been in person it would already be over, fisticuffs likely, as I don't believe you would permit me to walk away.

If you don't like being called on defending PBS for everything else they produced because you're so desperate to prop up your agenda that you would use a PBS production to do so, then don't use a biased source to defend your position.

Admitting you were wrong and that you do, indeed, have an agenda would at least be 'honest'...

23 posted on 01/14/2015 6:35:48 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: logi_cal869
I very much favor the exposing of corruption and crimes by the powerful. I believe free people require that so that they can stay free. I favor that exposure in democracies, and in autocratic states, like Russia. If that's the agenda you disdain, then fine. At least we've figured that out.

As for the rest of your rant, it is, to put it mildly, unhinged and inscrutable. You've made accusations and implications, but no assertions that are lucid enough to understand, let alone debate.

Have a good day. You may want to cut back on the caffeine.

24 posted on 01/14/2015 6:46:05 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Take your meds. Bipolarism is debilitating.

There’s no stepping back from what you wrote. I challenged your position citing valid work by POS and you made personal attacks on me.

Nice try.


25 posted on 01/14/2015 7:09:45 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: elhombrelibre
Are you under the impression that Putin is not corrupt?

Were is the proof that he is?

Khodorkovsky on the other hand, bought Russian oil at $1.70 a barrel and sold it on the world market for +$50 a barrel. He made billions in a couple of years, paying no taxes or investing the money in Russia.

He's admitted that he cheated but says he's paid by serving `9 years and now wants to move on. Big deal.

In the 90's there were many like him. Putin took them all on. On the scale of their personnel greed, Putin doesn't even come close.

The PBS show had no balance, it was a hatched job.

26 posted on 01/14/2015 7:42:06 AM PST by duckln
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To: logi_cal869
I don't know anything about bipolarism. I'm sorry to hear you find it debilitating.

You cited what valid works? What is POS? I can see you're not one to deal in personal attacks.

27 posted on 01/14/2015 7:57:25 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: duckln

Did you like the parts where they exposed Putin for putting critics in jail, like the investigators?


28 posted on 01/14/2015 7:58:42 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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29 posted on 01/14/2015 8:30:13 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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Thanks elhombrelibre.

30 posted on 01/14/2015 8:30:33 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: duckln

What do you mean by “were is the proof?”


31 posted on 01/14/2015 8:34:09 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre

OHH it was good especially Vlady has his own Russia palace LOL! that he ripped off the Russia people

Did you hear reason why Vlady want stay in power he is afraid he get shot LOL!


32 posted on 01/14/2015 10:07:38 AM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: elhombrelibre

Wow. Just wow.

If the POS documentary, ‘Putin’s Way’, is not ‘valid work’ by POS, then what was the point of your post? Your comments? Your attack on me (”something you oppose, like good government”)?

The bipolarism quip was an idiom, by the way. The other was a euphemism.

(yawn)


33 posted on 01/14/2015 5:52:12 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: logi_cal869
Yes, "Putin's Way" is a valid documentary. The point of the post was to inform those who may not of heard about the documentary aware of it. I now understand that you consider everything PBS does to have no value. That's okay, but, as the saying goes, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

I still don't see why you think you were attacked. You didn't want me to post about the show without saying why. I then tried to figure it out. You alluded to an agenda, which I now guess means you think I'm a big fan of PBS. I am not.

Still, if you'd like to learn more about Putin, here is a non PBS source at the link below. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpiZw1R8w-c

34 posted on 01/14/2015 10:10:25 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: duckln

Putin’s a great guy, just like the girls say. Testify, girls!

(music video with English subtitles. If only this was a spoof)
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zk_VszbZa_s

KGB colonel turned billionaire in one of the most corrupt countries on the planet. It’s almost, but not quite like the Steve Jobs story.


35 posted on 01/15/2015 9:48:31 AM PST by Ivan Mazepa
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To: elhombrelibre
"Putin's Way" is a valid documentary.

In your opinion.

...even a broken clock is right twice a day.

No. An inappropriate analogy. Progressives are broken but never right. PBS will never regain any stature as far as I'm concerned after being a mouthpiece for liberals/progressives for so long.

I still don't see why you think you were attacked.

Can't make it any more clear than I did. You came out swinging with made up lies about me. If this is catharsis, fine. I still see no apology.

You alluded to an agenda.

I've covered that.

if you'd like to learn more about Putin

Thanks, but no thanks. Putin will be replaced and, just like this country, the same ol' BS will go on. This is what pisses me off about the 'foreign crusade agenda': We have the ability to project force on multiple levels yet the defectives inserted into power see fit to misuse it time & again. NOW we have that same power being applied internally to our own population more so than being applied against our enemies.

Should everyone focus attention on changing things here, rather than stomping off to every block fight in the world that doesn't bear any Casus belli to shed a single drop of American blood, then we might be even stronger to face the Saddams of this century.

As it stands now, we're 2 steps from being a third-world country and frankly it pissed me off that anyone, let alone a Conservative, would assert that a foreign fight is worth a drop of American blood when the fight that's worth 10 to the 10th isn't being fought at all...if our Constitution is destroyed, there's no point and, frankly, by then it's too late anyway.

-fini-

36 posted on 01/15/2015 5:49:31 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: logi_cal869

You jump to a lot of conclusions. Frankly, you need to calm down and act a little more mature. You’re an advocate for parochialism. I now understand that. That’s fine. If you still feel insult because your unable to accept that PBS could have a helpful documentary on the baleful effects of Putin, fine. But I’m a gentleman. A gentleman never offends by accident. If you were offended, it’s your own thin skin.


37 posted on 01/15/2015 11:47:59 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre
ROFLMAO! I logged into a mental hospital this morning. /s

You move me, really. No...really. You win (the morning deuce races, that is). When you enter the room and others leave it's because they're heading for the restroom.

BRB...

38 posted on 01/16/2015 4:39:52 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: logi_cal869
Congratulations. You have a unique way with comments that are weird, inscrutable, not germane to the topic that matches your over-the-top obtuse projections onto others.
39 posted on 01/16/2015 4:45:54 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre
Thank you </sarc>...to you both (or is there a third?).

Pardon while I finish what you started; I printed a copy of this thread with just one purpose in mind...

40 posted on 01/16/2015 4:57:48 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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