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Botched executions prompting states to look at suffocating, electrocuting, or even shooting
National Monitor ^ | 12/28/2014 | Dan Taylor

Posted on 01/03/2015 7:31:29 PM PST by bkopto

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To: bkopto

The chopping off of the head is guaranteed to work.


61 posted on 01/03/2015 9:46:07 PM PST by dalereed
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To: tumblindice
Oh they'll come up with something as the prison system cannot keep the enormous numbers of people being incarcerated....and there will be more....especially with the third world nutcases coming here now.

Currently what they're doing is lessening punishments for crimes....it's like there is zero concerns for criminals today of being sent to jail...to them it's simply going into a gated “community” and they refer to it as such. Many criminals have a better life in jail then they could hope for outside!

62 posted on 01/03/2015 9:53:09 PM PST by caww
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To: doug from upland

5 marksmen with rifles, only one of whom has the real bullet.
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Thought it was one blank and 4 live rounds....element of doubt and surety of death.....


63 posted on 01/03/2015 9:54:02 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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To: doug from upland
If I was on the firing squad I would want the bullet and know that I had it!!!
64 posted on 01/03/2015 9:55:16 PM PST by dalereed
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To: bkopto; Morgana

Stab them in the head with scissors and use a vacuum cleaner to scoop out the brain matter.

It’s okay with politicians and the voting public when this is done to children. Why give condemned murders anything more humane?

And why do we never hear about cats and dogs suffering from botched executions when they are injected with the toxic chemicals that are used daily?


65 posted on 01/03/2015 10:05:35 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: upchuck
I don’t understand this at all. Vets have drugs they use everyday to humanly put down animals. Won’t these same drugs work on people?

My understanding is that some of the companies are refusing to sell their wares to the state. You can only complain about refusal of service if you are a homosexual, black, etc.

66 posted on 01/03/2015 10:12:06 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: bkopto

If they absolutely have to use chemical means as opposed to hanging, why not do like the veterinarians do? A simple overdose of anesthetics, they fall asleep and don’t wake up.


67 posted on 01/03/2015 10:13:05 PM PST by Ellendra (People who kill without reason cannot be reasoned with.)
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To: LouAvul
Kill'em however they killed their victims.

Once sentenced, turn em over to the families of the victim. Let them deal with the task.

68 posted on 01/03/2015 10:14:02 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: bkopto

Put them atop a certain amount of C-4. It either blows or it doesn’t, so no such thing as botching it, really. No way they’d feel it, either. The drawback would be cleaning up.


69 posted on 01/03/2015 10:19:55 PM PST by tubalcane
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To: bkopto

What any number of heroin addicts accomplishing voluntarily, medically trained government technicians seem incapable.


70 posted on 01/03/2015 10:20:32 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by government regulation.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Forcing kids to watch hangings would give them a little perspective on what happens when you mess around and break the law. In England, Middle Ages, they used to make their kids watch executions to prevent them from falling into crime.


71 posted on 01/03/2015 10:21:30 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: Carry_Okie

I don’t think the problem is the method, so much as people having problems taking lives. It could be that members of the execution team are getting agitated at what they do.


72 posted on 01/03/2015 10:23:07 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: Ouderkirk
Why not just whack them with enough heroin and it’s light out.

I've been saying this for years. Given that people kill themselves for the experience after prior unsuccessful "attempts," execution by heroin overdose neither could be called cruel nor unusual.

73 posted on 01/03/2015 10:23:24 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by government regulation.)
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To: CorporateStepsister
I don’t think the problem is the method, so much as people having problems taking lives.

Given the nature of the crimes involved, I seriously doubt one would have any difficulty finding someone competent to do that job voluntarily.

74 posted on 01/03/2015 10:25:28 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by government regulation.)
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To: Carry_Okie

You have a good point.

Lately though, with the number of people being found to be innocent, I think the issue of establishing guilt for that particular penalty should be done more efficiently.


75 posted on 01/03/2015 10:29:09 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: upchuck

“Vets have drugs they use everyday to humanly put down animals. Won’t these same drugs work on people?”

Exactly. What the heck is the problem? Anesthetize, then stop the heart. An overdose of propofol gave Michael Jackson a nice little release from the planet. People die of drug overdoses all the time and have no clue. Why are they overcomplicating this so much? Typical dense liberals. No grasp of the obvious.


76 posted on 01/03/2015 10:31:15 PM PST by bluejean (The lunatics are running the asylum)
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To: Mr. Blond

that takes too much brains for them to figure out....I say find a vet to do it, they can do a dog in less than than a minute...sorry to say I have had to put down 2 and they come out to the car and do it. FAST.


77 posted on 01/03/2015 10:47:14 PM PST by goat granny
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To: bkopto

I think hanging is the cheapest and projects a certain pall amoung some that might be expecting it. There is a science to it. I would think length of rope to body weight so as to snap the neck but not dismember the head from the body.


78 posted on 01/03/2015 10:48:48 PM PST by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: CorporateStepsister
Lately though, with the number of people being found to be innocent, I think the issue of establishing guilt for that particular penalty should be done more efficiently.

That is akin to saying our legal system is so convoluted by its worship of stare decisis while the entire educational system is so deficient that the jury system is necessarily dysfunctional, it is incapable of delivering just results. To which I would agree. Different problem.

79 posted on 01/03/2015 10:53:49 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by government regulation.)
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To: matthew fuller

inert gas sounds like a whole cottage industry. just hang em. some will gargle for while. some might have their heads come off but cleaning up is a lot easier. no gas left to asphyxiate the innocent.


80 posted on 01/03/2015 10:56:38 PM PST by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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