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To: DiogenesLamp

Worrying about pot is nothing

A dependent victim class tsunami is underway and will destroy the country I grew up in.

Political correctness and its stepchild open borders is what killed us

Marijuana is just chatter in the big picture

Something many here are very ignorant of us is that in the south most pot smokers are gun types who believe in God especially ove 30

I know in Oregon and libtard places pot means hippie

But not here

Its like saying all blacks are like Thugs....many are but not all

I personally know plenty folks who get high who are far right..like me

I know drinkers who are moderates and libtards

But I get it...you live in Boulder or Grants Pass or Yreka it likely looks dismal examining weed smokers as prog hippies

Simply not like that where I live


72 posted on 12/28/2014 12:15:58 AM PST by wardaddy (glenn beck is a nauseous politically correct conservative on LSD)
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To: wardaddy
Worrying about pot is nothing

A dependent victim class tsunami is underway and will destroy the country I grew up in.

Political correctness and its stepchild open borders is what killed us

Marijuana is just chatter in the big picture

The most astute comments I have seen directed towards me so far. Yes, you are right, marijuana is just another symptom of what is actually going on in this country right now. I only get into these marijuana threads because after six years of arguing with a libertarian about this topic, I now have a visceral reaction to the topic whenever I see it. I know it's a little cockroach, but by gum I can't help wanting to step on it every time I see it.

But getting back to your larger point, this is a subject that has occupied my mind for quite a long time now. For quite awhile i've been pondering how to turn around this descent into the maelstrom which we all seem to be making, and much of what I have learned informs me that this is very likely not possible.

I abhor being fatalistic, and though the future seems bleak, I still look for hope that things can be changed for the better.

I'm not finding much. For a long time I have come to regard our problems as systemic and more or less inevitable. We are following Rome into the dustbin of history, and what appears to be coming next looks pretty horrible. The Ancient Greeks put forth the concept of Kyklos and Alexander Tytler came up with his "Tytler cycle", and I see numerous other thinkers and philosophers throughout history have noticed the cyclic rise and fall of nations and empires, and it appears that we will be carried down by these same forces of chaos that brought the others low.

This creeping marijuana problem is just another aspect of this larger societal devolution. So is "gay marriage", abortion on demand, political correctness run amok, and a loss of immigration policy. All the degradations we are currently seeing appear to be fed from the same poisonous stream, the source of which appears to be encapsulated in the old saying "Good times make bad people."

You might find this discussion thread useful if you have an interest in this topic. I am known as "Diogenes" on that website.

79 posted on 12/28/2014 10:44:46 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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