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Why Liberals Should Fear the Supreme Court in 2015
National Journal ^ | 12/26/2014 | Sam Baker

Posted on 12/26/2014 4:41:35 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Slyfox
"What I don't understand is when that Gruber guy - -"

No, you understanding is fine. I believe that Roberts had to do mental gymnastics to arrive at his opinion to call the "fee"" a tax. Keep in mind, that Gruber was not party to the bill as a voting member of Congress and I doubt he was ever called to testify in the SC case. The other thing to note is that Congress could repeal Obamacare and override a presidential veto if there was the political will to do so. That is Robert's ultimate argument for not wanting to override Congress's intent.

21 posted on 12/26/2014 5:27:11 PM PST by buckalfa (Too many evenings spent at the North Heidelberg back in 1968)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think good things are coming our way from this court!


22 posted on 12/26/2014 5:38:31 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: newfreep

Yeah and don’t forget that the (N)ew (W)orld (O)rder puppet Georgie thinks he and his daddy’s pals, the islamic scum murdering muzzie savages are “The Religion of Peace” also. Good God.


23 posted on 12/26/2014 5:39:12 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Already, the Court is set to rule in a case that threatens to wreak havoc on Obamacare.

Fat chance in the "Roberts" Court!

24 posted on 12/26/2014 5:40:43 PM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Slyfox
What I don't understand is when that Gruber guy was getting Obamacare manufactured, he said that they expressly worked so that it would not be considered a tax. As if it were considered a tax that it would somehow have disastrous consequences for their work.

That's mostly the point of a different lawsuit that's still out there.

If it were a tax, then all revenue raising bills must originate in the House. This bill did originate in the House as a minor insignificant bill (the "Service Members Home Ownership Tax Act of 2009") that was amended in the Senate to gut the old bill and replace it with Obamacare. The amended bill was sent back to the House for approval. There is another lawsuit out there to challenge Obamacare on the basis of the Origination Clause and the House's power of the purse.

Also, Obama said that Obamacare would lower people's health care costs. If this is a tax, it has the dual appearance of 1) raising people's health care costs, and 2) paying money as a tax for someone else's health care costs. A tax goes to the general welfare, not your own family's health care needs.

Calling it a tax undermines everything that Obama said about the Affordable Care Act.

-PJ

25 posted on 12/26/2014 5:46:42 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I needed a laugh to end the year with.

This court will never be able to undo the damages it has done to this country.

Most should share a jail cell with Holder and Obama.


26 posted on 12/26/2014 5:50:56 PM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: buckalfa

Thanks.


27 posted on 12/26/2014 5:51:47 PM PST by Slyfox (To put on the mind of George Washington read ALL of Deuteronomy 28, then read his Farewell Address)
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To: Slyfox

Apparently, there is no end to the “enemies within”.


28 posted on 12/26/2014 5:52:54 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: newfreep

Comrade ayotolla 0bama has sufficient blackmail material on Roberts to ensure he does as he is told.


29 posted on 12/26/2014 5:54:15 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (OK. Now How many votes do we need to IMPEACH and REMOVE the bastard?)
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To: SeekAndFind
Roberts is too far in the Obama bag to back out now.


30 posted on 12/26/2014 6:21:23 PM PST by Iron Munro (D.H.S. has the same headcount as the US Marine Corps with twice the budget)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Calling it a tax undermines everything that Obama said about the Affordable Care Act.

Just after the SC decision on Obamacare came out, someone wrote an article (Krauthammer or George Will? I am working from a somewhat sketchy memory), where they made the point about the tax thing and said that Roberts did the right thing in pointing out that it was a tax - as if the Court was saying: "This thing needs to be corrected before we handle this again." But, it seems a lot of people prefer using the Supreme Court as the end point for the work Congress should be doing, when the Supreme Court is supposed to just decide whether something is constitutional or not.

So, if it is a tax and Congress did not figure it as such then someone has dropped the ball.

The media has been quite silent on this matter. Almost like the vase has dropped and broke on the floor - and the media is hushing everything to make sure no one notices that the vase just broke.

They will do anything to protect Obama won't they? Even if it greatly impinges on us Americans.

31 posted on 12/26/2014 6:34:42 PM PST by Slyfox (To put on the mind of George Washington read ALL of Deuteronomy 28, then read his Farewell Address)
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To: SeekAndFind

They’ll just blackmail Roberts again.


32 posted on 12/26/2014 7:04:07 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I have always feared the Supreme Court. Now that it’s packed with leftists, I fear them even more.


33 posted on 12/26/2014 7:34:52 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: SeekAndFind

Put not your trust in horses from Egypt...


34 posted on 12/26/2014 8:11:37 PM PST by Gritty (Evidence suggests once you reach the post-Christian stage, you don't have much of a future-Mk Steyn)
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To: Sans-Culotte
The joke turned out to be on both Bushes.

Both Bushes turned out to be a joke on America. Ready for round three?

35 posted on 12/26/2014 9:32:23 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
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To: Gritty

In women’s tennis, always bet against the heterosexual . . .


36 posted on 12/26/2014 9:35:54 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
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