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GOP learns lessons from Sam Brownback's tax scare
Politico ^ | 12/26/14 | Rachael Blade

Posted on 12/26/2014 12:43:31 PM PST by DoodleDawg

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Brownback rolled the dice and bet big hoping that everything would work our like he promised and he'd be a lock for the 2016 vice-presidential spot. Didn't quite work out like he planned.
1 posted on 12/26/2014 12:43:31 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Cutting taxes is great but if you don’t cut spending commensurately you’re screwed.


2 posted on 12/26/2014 12:44:38 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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Cutting taxes is popular and produces desirable results.

I think the libs tried to fake us out in KS as both Sam Brownback and Pat Roberts comfortably won re-election.


3 posted on 12/26/2014 12:46:57 PM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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Cutting taxes is great but if you don’t cut spending commensurately you’re screwed.

He's been cutting for the past couple of years but can't seem to cut enough to keep up with the revenue shortfalls. Kansas has privatized Medicaid so there isn't much they can cut there. They've cut education so much that the natives are restless. Now they're cutting road maintenance and contributions to the state pension fund. And even that might not be enough.

4 posted on 12/26/2014 12:48:46 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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Yeh when you cut taxes you generally have to cut services. In most states that shouldn’t be too hard. There is always a lot of lard.


5 posted on 12/26/2014 12:59:16 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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Yeh when you cut taxes you generally have to cut services. In most states that shouldn’t be too hard. There is always a lot of lard.

He's running out of lard and is still in the red.

6 posted on 12/26/2014 1:02:54 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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“There is always a lot of lard.”

Not necessarily. They will never cut the big dollar employees and the small dollar employees do the work that everyone insists needs to be done.
What really needs to be done is cut Welfare. But the children......


7 posted on 12/26/2014 1:08:37 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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He's running out of lard and is still in the red.

So what??? Everyone has had to cut back in this 0bama depression, that should go for government too at all levels. You sound like a true statist and not conservative but I noticed that from you during the Kansas elections.

CGato

8 posted on 12/26/2014 1:12:17 PM PST by Conservative Gato
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To: DoodleDawg

Brownback won 50-46% and they portray that as a Dem victory.


9 posted on 12/26/2014 1:13:44 PM PST by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Brownback is a great governor. The problem with cutting spending when you are the governor is that you are not always given what you need from the two houses of congress. He is not state dictator. Believe me Kansas is better off with him than with any governor they have had in a very long time. There are MANY liberals in the KS Republican party who will bad mouth him and undercut him every step of the way.


10 posted on 12/26/2014 1:15:29 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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There were no cuts to education! Good grief. Politico is as bad as Rolling Stone! Anything to make it look like feeding the government should be our first priority. The voters in Kansas got it: there was an increase in spending on education. For the 1000th time.


11 posted on 12/26/2014 1:16:13 PM PST by Kanzan
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There were no cuts to education! Good grief. Politico is as bad as Rolling Stone! Anything to make it look like feeding the government should be our first priority. The voters in Kansas got it: there was an increase in spending on education. For the 1000th time.


12 posted on 12/26/2014 1:16:14 PM PST by Kanzan
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Government does not always need to grow. Why is this an assumed right?


13 posted on 12/26/2014 1:18:28 PM PST by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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Pence, Kasich, Ducey (Jon Kyl clone) and others are RINOS anyway, so they are just making excuses.

I dont think someone from Kansas will be on the ticket. Unless it is a unifier like Kobach. But maybe Kobach will primary Moran instead.

Milton Wolf called out both Roberts for his liberal votes and Jerry Moran for suddenly voting conservative 2 years out.

They’ll have to take sides with or against Jerry Moran and then the top of the ticket becomes an option to vote against Moran/Roberts/Cochran types.


14 posted on 12/26/2014 1:19:46 PM PST by ObamahatesPACoal
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Good. I’m sure he’s preferrable as governor to the Democrat he recently defeated, but if Brownback’s national aspirations have been torpedoed, then we’re all better off.


15 posted on 12/26/2014 1:22:30 PM PST by Aetius
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You have to cut spending when you cut taxes. Congress has been reluctant to cut spending, and so cutting taxes only forces the government to print more money.


16 posted on 12/26/2014 1:24:48 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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There are still federal impacts on growth that no doubt stymied the prospects in Kansas. If we had a Reagan in the White House, Brownback’s plan might’ve worked.


17 posted on 12/26/2014 1:30:09 PM PST by Twotone (Truth is hate to those who hate truth.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

It was good to see the GOP turn away challenges and win the high-profile governor and senate races in Kansas. I’m sure Brownback is better than the Democrat he beat, and I’m sure he’s better than the moderate/liberal Republicans in the state.

But conservatives should never forget how terrible Brownback was on immigration while in Congress and the Senate, and what a hypocrite he was on refugees.

He was one of the Republicans who helped torpedo the mid-90s attempt at comprehensive immigration reform that would have reduced legal immigration and ended unending mass chain immigration. In other words, the GOP could have passed a bill that might have halted or at least slowed the immigration-driven demographic shift of the nation towards the Democrats. Clinton even signaled initial support for the bill (or at least the Jordan Commission’s findings that the bill was based on). But Brownback and other liberal-on-immigration conservatives helped derail the effort, and Clinton never had the make a tough choice between signing or vetoing a reasonable bill that would have been popular with the general public but unpopular with professional ethnic interest groups.

And as a Senator, Brownback was one of the biggest cheerleaders for importing refuguees...just so long as they weren’t dumped in Kansas that is!


18 posted on 12/26/2014 1:33:17 PM PST by Aetius
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The children will move to other states. Many of the children come directly from Chicago to the Social Services city gov't. bldg. in Minneapolis, suitcases in tow, to sign up for services.


19 posted on 12/26/2014 1:37:48 PM PST by definitelynotaliberal (Go, Cruz! Go!)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
There are MANY liberals in the KS Republican party who will bad mouth him and undercut him every step of the way.

But very few in the Kansas legislature. The conservative wing of the party took most of them out during the last two primary seasons.

20 posted on 12/26/2014 1:43:28 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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