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To: Star Traveler
Guess which high profile tech company is doing all that?

It’s not Apple. It’s Samsung.


Eventually, even the Apple loyal will begin to realize that, they're paying a premium price for what most others get at much lower prices.

Loyalty to a brand makes no sense, and loving a company makes even less sense. Quality is nice, but, like some people here have already stated, good enough is all that's needed, especially with gadgets that are meant to become obsolete in 1-2 years, or that people will feel the "want" (not the 'need'; the 'want') to upgrade to the latest-and-greatest.

When (not if, but when) Apple reaches the point where their loyal fan-base begins noticing how they didn't really need the iPhone to feel cool, then, Apple will be in worse shape than Samsung; Samsung is a more diversified company than Apple, where Apple's fortunes are mostly dependent on one device, that being the iPhone. But, writers as the one who wrote that article, don't really understand that companies need to worry about long-term success, rather than short-term WOW!-type figures.
62 posted on 12/26/2014 12:28:46 PM PST by adorno (a)
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To: adorno
Loyalty to a brand makes no sense, and loving a company makes even less sense. Quality is nice, but, like some people here have already stated, good enough is all that's needed, especially with gadgets that are meant to become obsolete in 1-2 years, or that people will feel the "want" (not the 'need'; the 'want') to upgrade to the latest-and-greatest.

If Macs are built to become "obsolete in 1-2 years," why is my late 2007 27" iMac still going strong after seven years, running OS X.10 Yosemite. . . without a problem? I was just offered $575 by a local computer RE-SELLER for that iMac. . . because he can resell every one he gets his hands on. We just sold our office's 8 year old Mac Pro for $900. . . and replaced it with a five year old model which we paid $1250 (I found a real bargain from a guy who was moving and downsizing and had only a short time to move it) because we needed one we could expand the RAM further. Can you say the same thing about ANY Windows PC that is SEVEN YEARS OLD?I know you cannot.

The simple fact is, adorno, is that we DON'T pay a high price for something we can get a much lower prices. We are NOT stupid. The factual situation is that EVERY SINGLE analysis of Total Cost of Ownership has shown that it is FAR LESS EXPENSIVE in the long run to buy an Apple Macintosh than it is to buy one of those cheap Windows computers. . . and a good portion of that lower cost is the recovery made when the computer is resold on upgrade.

My original iPhone, purchased on the day the iPhones were released on June 29, 2007, was handed down through family members and finally retired as a phone last march but continues in use as an iPod touch being used by my three year old granddaughter, 7 1/2 years AFTER it was put in service. . . all on the original battery which still has approximately 80% discharge time left after charging. . . and in the meantime I have not paid ONE RED CENT to upgrade to the latest and greater iPhones as they came out because I can SELL each previous model for MORE than the cost to upgrade. . . something you cannot do with any other smartphone make two years after they come out.

As an example, a fellow I know went with me when I upgraded to the iPhone 5 three years ago. . . to upgrade his latest and greatest Samsung flagship phone he had purchased for FULL UNLOCKED RETAIL of $649, not three months before. . . which he had grown to hate. I was offered a trade in of $275 for my two year old iPhone 4S which covered the entire upgrade and activation costs plus some for my upgrade. . . but his three month old, top of the line Samsung—which was still being sold for that high price—was worth only $64.95 in trade in! When asked why, the answer was that "No one wants them!" He went ahead and paid full bore for an iPhone 5 and switched his phone service to it.

And, most of us have BEEN users of the Windows junk. . . and you could not pay us to go back to that hell. Many of the iPhone users have been Android users and the same situation is true. They simply do not WANT to spend their time tweaking their phones to get them to work and downloading apps to find the best stuff they simply get already with the iPhone.

Samsung is losing money because their phone division is dragging down ALL of their company. . .

87 posted on 12/26/2014 10:52:44 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: adorno
Loyalty to a brand makes no sense, and loving a company makes even less sense. Quality is nice, but, like some people here have already stated, good enough is all that's needed,

I am glad there are people smart enough to decide what I need.

Very conservative attitude.

99 posted on 12/27/2014 11:17:59 AM PST by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: adorno
Some like Chevies, others like and can afford Rolls Royces. Some can afford neither.
100 posted on 12/27/2014 11:27:15 AM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: adorno

“Eventually, even the Apple loyal will begin to realize that, they’re paying a premium price for what most others get at much lower prices. “

Apple users do get something of value for that premium price. And that is hardware and software that is tightly integrated and takes little time and effort to maintain.

I’ve owned both and use a Windows machine myself. But for family members who aren’t computer savvy the Apple is far less frustrating.


102 posted on 12/27/2014 11:47:31 AM PST by Pelham (Treason, not just for Democrats anymore)
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