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Gangbangers Unbound (Explains a lot)
American Thinker ^ | December 22, 2014 | J.R. Dunn

Posted on 12/22/2014 3:01:42 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Rafael Ramos and Wenjin Liu died because of the campaign to vilify police. Even as the events of Ferguson begin to fade, the campaign it helped engender rolls on, with new reports of demonstrations and protests appearing almost daily. Last week Carol Jackson, a federal judge, restricted police tactics against protestors. (This is kind of odd in and of itself. The last thing people want to hear about during the holidays is some hood getting his comeuppance. The same can be said about Sen. Feinstein’s “torture report” -- waterboarding is not likely to play well during the sleigh bell season. Is the left beginning to lose its customary excellent timing?)

What remains to be said -- and what has been widely overlooked -- is what lies behind this campaign, what exact role Ferguson -- and Staten Island, and Cleveland, all the way back to Sanford, Florida -- play in the agenda of the American left.

That there is an agenda is not in question. Presidents, attorneys general, sports and entertainment celebrities, and the media sphere as a whole do not get involved in small local disturbances for no reason. Stepping back, we can see a consistent thread of deliberately aggravated racial incidents throughout the Obama presidency, from the Gates incident through the Trayvon Martin controversy on to Ferguson. All featured intervention from Obama, and most from Eric Holder as well. You can search all you like among previous presidencies for comparable actions, but you will do so in vain....

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: andrewcuomo; billdeblasio; blackkk; blacks; chirlanemccray; democrats; ericholder; ferguson; newyork; newyorkcity; nypd; obama; trayvon; welfare

1 posted on 12/22/2014 3:01:42 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sorry, but from what I’ve seen in each of these cases, Obama and Holder came in well after the fact.

“I’m their Leader, I must get in front of them.”

I don’t think the administration is driving this, they’re being dragged along by media and “civil rights” groups.


2 posted on 12/22/2014 3:26:28 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Did you read the whole thing?


3 posted on 12/22/2014 3:28:45 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rafael Ramos and Wenjin Liu died because of the campaign to vilify police.
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The police have done an excellent job stepping along to the marxist beat as they conduct no knock raids , flash-bang infants , steal property with impunity and generally place themselves above anything resembling the rule of law.. only the police themselves can reverse the CORRECT interpretation of their actions by refusing to violate others rights. I don’t know those two officers but they are part of an organization that encourages theft from the public with false parking tickets , conducts deadly no-knocks , supports illegal stop and frisk operations and supports officers in motorcycle gangs dragging people out of their cars and beating them to a pulp.


4 posted on 12/22/2014 3:35:47 AM PST by Neidermeyer ("Our courts should not be collection agencies for crooks." — John Waihee, Governor of Hawaii, 1986-)
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To: Sherman Logan
That the president came in at all is the point. he could have used any number of similar incidents, these just happened to be the ones that took hold in the rumor mill.

Another common thread is that the press accounts have all been designed to stoke passion, while being grossly misleading about the facts.

That in itself is nothing new, been going on for generations. Use to stoke racial tension is new, and Obama is an excellent divider. If the administration was honest (it's not), it would wait for facts, and would base its expression of sentiment on the facts. No honesty here, this is all outcome driven.

5 posted on 12/22/2014 3:41:14 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Excellent assessment of the racially obsessed left shaping US current events.
Charles Manson may get his Helter Skelter race war wish, after all, if this keeps up.
Diversity is our strength, indeed...
Thanks for sharing this.


6 posted on 12/22/2014 3:42:03 AM PST by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I did now. Stand by my earlier comment.

Obama is jumping in on these events after they gain traction. He isn’t creating the publicity, he’s simply trying to use it to his advantage.

Of the recent cases discussed. Ferguson was self-defense by the cop. Cleveland appears to be over-reaction by someone who should not have been a cop. Staten Island looks like a tragic accident aggravated by the police being less concerned than perhaps they should have been about the health of the guy they had just been tangling with.

Many thousands of people are killed each year in the USA. Some of those killings resonate with various groups and become celebrated, because they “illustrate a deeper truth.”

That “deeper truth” may or may not exist objectively. But it’s very real in the minds of those who believe in it.

Liberals see the Ferguson, Cleveland and Staten Island cases as symbolic of “black lives don’t matter” to cops, white people and society in general.

Conservatives see the murder of the NYC cops as symbolic of the hate fostered by leftism.

But we’ve had more police killed in single incidents before, with no obvious campaign to incite it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakewood,_Washington_police_officer_shooting


7 posted on 12/22/2014 3:44:48 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Cboldt

My point is that Obama isn’t creating the uproar, though he’s certainly not trying very hard to rein it in.

There’s a really simple reason for this issue. The last and just about the only time liberals/leftists were indisputably on the moral side was during the “civil rights movement” of the 50s/60s.

That’s why they try to turn every issue into “the civil rights issue of our time.” They want to relive the rush of fighting against true injustice.

Of course in today’s world that injustice doesn’t really exist, so it must be created. Hence the uproar over cases that don’t warrant it and the rash of “hate crime” hoaxes.


8 posted on 12/22/2014 3:48:25 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“It’s not about the agenda, it’s always about the revolution...”


9 posted on 12/22/2014 3:50:08 AM PST by Popman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well done article! The gang bangers keep this up and come in to white neighborhoods, the liberals will be amazed at what happens next.
10 posted on 12/22/2014 4:22:28 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: Sherman Logan
-- My point is that Obama isn't creating the uproar, though he's certainly not trying very hard to rein it in. --

That depends on what you mean by "creating" the uproar. The incidents (Zimmerman/martin, Ferguson) happened without his assistance, sure. My view is that the president has made a significant contribution to the public reaction, on the side of the thug and entitled class. That part, he has a hand in "creating," not that it didn't exist before, his role is to attempt to legitimize the reaction.

I don't think the liberals were on the moral side of the civil rights movement either. They have made every effort to create and maintain division, with affirmative action, entitlements, and public discourse.

11 posted on 12/22/2014 4:33:09 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Sherman Logan
Think back to the night when Ferguson burned. The National Guard was called in before that night but then inexplicably absent during the festivities. The Lt. Governor was out in front of the media calling the Governor out for the absence. You don't think the JustUs department had something to do with that? It was another 'stand down' order and all the usual suspects were there.....including Van Jones!

This is what top down, bottom up looks like.

12 posted on 12/22/2014 4:54:51 AM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Cboldt
affirmative action, entitlements, and public discourse.

All these came after the triumph of the real civil rights movement. They were all attempts, as I said, to leverage the moral prestige of that movement into areas where it didn't really belong.

13 posted on 12/22/2014 5:02:25 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Neidermeyer
The police have done an excellent job stepping along to the marxist beat as they conduct no knock raids , flash-bang infants , steal property with impunity and generally place themselves above anything resembling the rule of law.. only the police themselves can reverse the CORRECT interpretation of their actions by refusing to violate others rights. I don’t know those two officers but they are part of an organization that encourages theft from the public with false parking tickets , conducts deadly no-knocks , supports illegal stop and frisk operations and supports officers in motorcycle gangs dragging people out of their cars and beating them to a pulp.

Yours may be one of the most absurd posts I've seen here on years on FR. If you analyze the calls for service numbers made across this county over a 24 hour period then compare the number of events that you list you are citing statistical anomalies. If you do the math on a year of service calls, traffic stops, servicing warrants, etc. the overwhelming evidence is that people in law enforcement in America follow the rules.

The mathematics, the facts are that your assertion is pure garbage. It is the use of such garbage "facts" that lead to the murder of two guys sitting in a car NOT DOING any of the things you listed. They were having lunch from what I read. You indeed did not know the two officers nor do you have any inkling of their history in uniform or much else about them but you paint them as some kind of NAZI's as you do all "police". That's as asinine as looking at someones skin color and drawing conclusions from that.

14 posted on 12/22/2014 5:39:31 AM PST by isthisnickcool (NO MORE IRS!)
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To: Sherman Logan

Obama and Holder are totally guilty of the act of “creating an atmosphere” that contributed to the anti-police sentiment that has been escalating since they gained high office.

Both have jumped to conclusions and stoked the flames long before all the evidence was gathered. Both have been reckless and incendiary when they should kept their mouths shut. They have both been “leading” in that regard.

Holder’s refusal to prosecute the Philadelphia, Black Panther voter intimadators was probably an early sign of how “justice” would be viewed by the new administration, and the sort of “leadership” to expect.


15 posted on 12/22/2014 6:34:03 AM PST by Will88
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"Last week Carol Jackson, a federal judge, restricted police tactics against protestors."

I'm going to take a wild guess that her restrictions do not apply to the US Marshals who provide security to federal judges...

16 posted on 12/22/2014 6:37:52 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: isthisnickcool

I’ve seen too much firsthand to cut them any slack (and I’m not referring to anything in the news ,, I really mean firsthand), if they want respect they have to earn it the same as the rest of us. The first step for them is to “just say no” to illegal orders that abuse OUR rights, and a stop to the favoritism shown in legal venues. They are NOT above us ,, they are our employees ,, yet they can murder me at 3am in a no-knock raid and walk away with a paid vacation at my survivors expense ,,, however a stinking police dog if injured would get me decades in jail for injuring an “officer”.

AREN’T YOU ABOVE A DOG ,, ANY DOG?

This isn’t a one way street as much as you closeted boot lickers that secretly loathe freedom would have us believe... If they reform themselves maybe they will have my respect in 20-30 years...


17 posted on 12/22/2014 12:47:15 PM PST by Neidermeyer ("Our courts should not be collection agencies for crooks." — John Waihee, Governor of Hawaii, 1986-)
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To: Neidermeyer
This isn’t a one way street as much as you closeted boot lickers that secretly loathe freedom would have us believe...

I take my comment back that your post was one of most absurd ones I've seen here. The last one was.

You would not call me a boot licker to my face bud. As far as anyone respecting you? Good luck with that..

18 posted on 12/22/2014 3:38:04 PM PST by isthisnickcool (NO MORE IRS!)
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