Putin: West wants to defang, declaw Russian bear

AP ^ | December 18, 2014 | LAURA MILLS and VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

Really ?

Yes, really. Here's a picture of some heads in boxes for you, posted on Russian social media:

https://einsamerkrieger.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/612x634.jpg

Want more pictures? Want verified acts of violence? I got them. Just ask.

I hear that a group of soldiers attacked a radio station at the border.

Shutup, scumbag! There are people actually dying in East Ukraine, put to death by actual Nazis and Communists (I can show you pictures of these "separatist" leaders posing with them), and your sorry ass makes a Nazi-Comparison and dismisses it all, even while you expect me to believe that the "Rothschilds" control the entire world. Shut up! You make me sick.

[arderkrag]

Um, no, Pooty-poot, we don’t care what the “Russian Bear” (snort) does.

[Attention Surplus Disorder]

I would bet a solid nickel that tremendous amounts of Russian money are gushing into US stock markets, and this is part of the incredible ramp we’ve had these past 2 days.

[SampleMan]

When the only tool you have is a conspiracy hammer...

[The Sons of Liberty]

Putin: West wants to defang, declaw Russian bear

He forgot CASTRATE.

[PieterCasparzen]

Why has the US allowed Afghanistan to produce most of the world’s heroin while we’ve been there.

If the hammer fits...

[PieterCasparzen]

Gruesome internet pictures are not evidence of the source of violence. Typically they’re false evidence.

What’s more essential to consider: there are horrible acts of violence in many countries that the US/UK/Europe selectively ignores.

That tells the person with some common sense that our “leaders” motivations are not to help victims of senseless violence.

In fact, the sensible person can only conclude that there is some probability that the powerful interests who desire to use the US military as their own fighting force actually had a hand in creating the violence that they now have their minions decrying.

[McGruff]

Sternly warning the West it cannot defang the metaphorical Russian bear...

He's starting to talk like a corned animal. I'd take that as a warning.

[SampleMan]

Why has the US allowed Afghanistan to produce most of the world’s heroin while we’ve been there.

1. Afghans have historically produced ~90% of the world's heroin, so reducing them to #2 status would be no small thing.

2. Cutting the heroin crop (their #1 cash crop) would be counterproductive to winning over the population against the Taliban. i.e. it falls outside of our military strategy.

3. When you say "allow" you assert a condition that doesn't exist. It presumes we could easily stop it, which is a fallacy. We can't stop the cocaine and MJ trade inside our own borders, and you assert that we are "allowing it" in a foreign land.

4. We would need at least a million troops in country to police the agricultural endeavors of 30 million rural Afghans over 252,000 sq mi.

But you think its a conspiracy. Are we also allowing NK to play their games, the Somalis to pirate, ISIS to rampage, and the Russians to kill Ukrainians? Oops, I forgot, you think none of that stuff is happening, and its all a ruse by powerful American elites. So I'm curious, if the elites are feeding false information about a major verifiable war in the Ukraine, why are they allowing you to hear that Afghanistan is still producing the majority of the world's heroin? Wouldn't that war be easier to sell if people thought it had better results?

[PieterCasparzen]

So I'm curious, if the elites are feeding false information about a major verifiable war in the Ukraine, why are they allowing you to hear that Afghanistan is still producing the majority of the world's heroin?

Dude, you just parroted the elites' cover story for Afghan heroin:

1. Afghans have historically produced ~90% of the world's heroin, so reducing them to #2 status would be no small thing.

2. Cutting the heroin crop (their #1 cash crop) would be counterproductive to winning over the population against the Taliban. i.e. it falls outside of our military strategy.

3. When you say "allow" you assert a condition that doesn't exist. It presumes we could easily stop it, which is a fallacy. We can't stop the cocaine and MJ trade inside our own borders, and you assert that we are "allowing it" in a foreign land.

4. We would need at least a million troops in country to police the agricultural endeavors of 30 million rural Afghans over 252,000 sq mi.

So most Americans "shrug it off" as impossible.

You don't even know / (won't admit) who the top drug lords are.

SampleMan, do you think you could launder $100,000 of cash through your bank account ?

Try taking just $8,000 cash, and deposit it to your account. Then write a check to your wife, have her deposit the check to her account at another bank. Then have her withdraw the $8,000 in cash, give it to you, and you deposit the cash to your bank account. Keep repeating the cycle every week. See what happens; guaranteed you'll raise eyebrows at the bank and law enforcement.

Now what if you had to launder hundreds of millions every year ?

You could only do that with the acquiescence of top officials in government and the banks.

The CIA / "national security" gives our drug lord / new world order masters impunity to launder away, as much as they want. Of course, the UK elites have their intel agencies which they control, and the "cousins" in Europe have theirs. These folks invented espionage; they've been at the forefront of espionage for centuries. It's the network of networks, the biggest of the big in finance and power. If you get on the wrong side of those folks, you're toast - even if you're a political leader of a nation. Any nation.

HSBC started in Hong Kong immediately after the Second Opium War; it was the drug lords' bank. You know what ? HSBC mysteriously somehow, after over a century of experience with drug money - still "can't stop" the money laundering. It's stupifying. But you sheeple just go on in your fantasyland of GI Joe action figures "saving the world" making it "safe for new world order" or whatever. It really makes me sick when I think of the sacrifice of my forebearers in military service, all in the service - unknowingly - of new world order crackpot financiers.

In any case, this is why the business/flow never stops. All law enforcement can do is catch the smalltime retailers who have no impunity at all; they're expendable and there are plenty more where they came from.

Don't forget, as heads of Wall Street, the financiers (getting a cut of the illegal business via the top-level money laundering - a cut of the entire industry, in bulk, in a few easy transactions here and there), also control publicly-held companies boards, some more than others. Some of the firms most controlled by the elite banking families are the pharma companies. Big pharma is new world order's operation - it has been from day one. So they control both the illegal and legal side of drugs.

[PieterCasparzen]

Just ponder what the impunity is worth to the largest drug networks, that their head guy is allowed to launder his money for a fee.

If need be, someone from CIA can make a call and say “well, you can’t touch him, he’s a CIA asset. This is a national security issue, case closed”.

Think what that is worth. It effectively makes the drug gangs working for their protectors.

And any time there are problems that bother the elites a little too much, US law enforcement and US military shows up to “rid some small country of some evil tyrant”. Everyone in the US political machinery looks like a hero. Problem solved, they simply get a new “high level dealer”. Not only is it not impossible to control the illegal drug business, it’s quite easy if you’re in the right position.

[semantic]

You're wasting your time. FR is comprised of sheep so deeply imbued with conditioning that they cannot reconcile cause & effect, much less recognize their own cognitive dissonance.

Add in a few 'handlers' to help ensure & direct proper group think, and you have the perfect petri dish in which explanations, rationalizations and excuses can be first tested, then rolled out to the larger 'conservative' marketplace via Fox news, etc.

Regarding military service, it seems many veterans do eventually realize they were merely dupes and expendable pawns. I have a family member - retired career air force - who was musing that it seems like we are now constantly at war. I guess he never read/heard about Smedley Butler.

Ironically, the troops really are fighting for our freedoms. The entire linchpin of the American way of life is dependent on $USD reserve status. Without that, there isn't any EBT; no EBT means no peace from the 35% non-white population.

So, $USD -> peace for traditional conservative whites ie the majority of posters attracted to FR. So, in a weird way, they are correct in supporting a post-constitutional, non-republican government.

[SampleMan]

I'd say it would be worth a very small fraction of the cost of our operations in Afghanistan. You are talking about the equivalent of a secret plot to control Walmart, so that you can smuggle M&Ms out the back door without getting caught.

Now if you want to talk about how much tinfoil has been sold to gullible conspiracy theorists, I'm all ears.

[PieterCasparzen]

Silly wabbit, the Feral government borrows to pay for our Afghan operations, with the US taxpayer paying off the debt (on the forever plan).

The financial elites don’t use THEIR money.

They hardly pay taxes.

The financial elites put the amount they would pay in tax into tax-exempt foundations that they control that help them carry out their agendas.

The gubmints big contractors and vendors are businesses controlled by new world order or unwittingly chiming in working on new world order agendas.

For the most part, new world order gets money from government, they don’t pay money to it.

Taxes are for the working sheeple. Only the silly working sheeple pay into the gubmint coffers, so they are paying for all the military adventures of the elites, as well as all government handouts, giveaways, etc.

[SampleMan]

I'm surprised that you haven't already determined that I am a CIA plant here at FR. My real name is Otto “Sampleman” Rothschild-Rockefeller-DuPont.

I can freely say this to you, as I also control FreeRepublic. Jim Rob is just a cover.

I have configured the server such that only you will see this post, and if the cameras in your house detect another looking over your shoulder, you entire hard drive will crash.

Wait until you discover that what you think are the controlling elite, are just the puppets of our alien overlords.

[semantic]

If it wasn't for retards and trolls, the US economy would look a lot different. In fact, I'm not sure my portfolio would be performing quite as well.

Pieter is just upset because he's not riding the gravy train. Me, I'm happy millions of voters think the same way you do, and keep promoting the borrow & spend agenda.

DOW went up another 500 points - print, print, print. But it's all good, no? After all, deficits don't matter and the poor Russian bear is certainly on the ropes.

[SampleMan]

There isn't any secret conspiracy to print money, it's quite out in the open.

Sometimes a Russian despot strong-arming neighboring states to reestablish historical hegemony over the region is just a Russian despot strong-arming neighboring states to reestablish historical hegemony over the region. You don't really need to delve into Free Masons, Illuminati, Jewish bankers, or ancient aliens to understand it.

As with the the Leftist conspiracy theorists, I'm always fascinated that only the U.S. can have alternative motives and that every other country in the world is innocent.

[PieterCasparzen]

It’s not print, it’s borrow.

Federal government borrows.

If it printed, it would not have to borrow. (oops).

[PieterCasparzen]

SampleMan, when you research these things you need to filter out the junk - the things you mentioned tell me you have not really gotten to the basic facts. That's what all that hogwash is designed to do; make the entire concept of the top elite financiers having any interest other than purely their own immediate financial gain.

Forget the whole "conspiracy" thing as you know it. Throw it out, it's all bunk.

Just examine events/situations that are ordinary business/transactions/etc., that are not fantastical. Ignore any UFO/Jewish conspiracy material you come across. Just keep researching pieces of facts, getting a second and third confirmation of the fact where possible. You could study elite finance's role in funding the Bolshevik revolution, for example. It makes no sense for capitalists to finance communism, since we're taught that the are at odds with each other. If you come across credible evidence that this financing happened, now you've got a point to keep in mind and delve into more deeply.

You could examing Col. House (Woodrow Wilson's aide) and his life in detail. Lots of stuff there, factual things, that will have the reasonable American scratching their head.

Again, toss aside all the "internet junk" you come across. Just look at business documents, letters, newspaper accounts of events, personal meetings, etc. Where people went to school, who with, who taught them, etc. Family relationships. Go through careers year by year. Etc.

If you do this a bit, you may start rethinking your current views.

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

Gruesome internet pictures are not evidence of the source of violence.

Fascinating response. So you believe in retarded conspiracy theories about the Rockefellers or Rothschilds supposedly controlling the U.S. government, but suddenly develop a standard of evidence for Russia? This is quite incredible.

As for Russkie atrocities, these are easy to confirm in all the particulars I have mentioned. I've posted threads on the subject, if not posts all over the place on them, usually containing gruesome details such as people stuffed in boxes, hanged on walls, etc. Here is only a recent thread of mine, though this one discussing the targeting of Protestant churches and the abduction and murder of pastors:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3234770/posts What’s more essential to consider: there are horrible acts of violence in many countries that the US/UK/Europe selectively ignores.

Assuming you are not suffering from a mental illness, what is essential to consider is your depiction of Russia as merely being a victim to the evil actions of shadowy bankers controlling Barack Obama and the U.S. government in general, and oil prices, etc. All the Russians marching around in East Ukraine with Communist flags would naturally suggest the opposite is true.

n fact, the sensible person can only conclude

A sensible person does not believe your crap.