Teen marijuana use declined this year, despite increased legalization

Red Alert Politics ^ | December 16, 2014 | Maria Santos

[Ken H]

A favorite argument of the anti-marijuana crowd is that legalization would send the wrong signal to the youth and make them think drugs are good for them. Except that, with increasing legalization across the country, that hasn’t happened yet.

In fact, teen drug use decreased in 2014, according to a study by the University of Michigan and the National Institutes on Drug Abuse. The same year Colorado and Washington’s legalization was in full swing, while two states and the District of Columbia all passed some form of legalization.

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Also notable: according to the study, marijuana has gotten slightly more difficult for teens to obtain. “Reported availability, on the other hand, is down significantly since 2013 in the two lower grades (and unchanged in 12th grade), which may help to explain the modest decline in use this year.”

[Helen]

The tendency of the young is to buck the system. The attraction of bucking the system has been removed. Moving on...

[a fool in paradise]

Why start now? Those against the drug war were silent for decades on this matter as they only targeted “demon rum” and “wicked tobacco”.

[Ken H]

So do you support the 10th Amendment or not?

[manc]

exactly

[Ken H]

Nope. Wars against marijuana, alcohol and tobacco have their roots in the big government Progressive Era, and are made possible by trampling the 10th Amendment via the Wickard Commerce Clause.

It's all just whoredom working different sides of the same street.

[bakeneko]

That’s what is so scary.

Because e-cigs are about 1000000000000 times more dangerous than pot.

[corkoman]

That’s what is so scary. Because e-cigs are about 1000000000000 times more dangerous than pot

Really? Please share your data.

[jjsheridan5]

That’s what is so scary. Because e-cigs are about 1000000000000 times more dangerous than pot

Really? Please share your data.

I couldn't tell if the original post was sarcasm or not. One quadrillion times more dangerous. That's a whole lot of dangerous. No matter how I run the numbers, it never exceeds a few trillion times more dangerous. I too, would like to see the math on this.

[bakeneko]

There were about 10^20 newspaper articles about how dangerous e-cigs are. And maybe 10^-200 mentions in the past 20 years about how dangerous pot is.

My data is all scientific and stuff.

[a fool in paradise]

Do you only now support the 10th amendment now that pot is being legalized?

Late to the game it seems.

[DennisR]

“That’s why, where pot is illegal, it’s easier for kids to get pot than alcohol.”

Really? Source, please. Thanks.

[varyouga]

Well, pot has no known toxic dose through any means of ingestion - purposeful or accidental. It is impossible to die or be injured by chemicals in pot nomatter what you do. There are also no known allergies or drug interactions. There is not a single case in recorded history of damage or death.

Now, nicotine is actually very toxic at a high dose. Swallowing or even spilling the e-cig liquid on yourself can result in seizures, nerve damage or death. Some people have even had seizures with normal e-cig use since nicotine dosing can be unnaturally high with no warning. There have been numerous recorded cases of harm in the last few years.

Therefore, the chemicals in e-cigs are technically infinity times more deadly than pot.

[Ken H]

Do you only now support the 10th amendment now that pot is being legalized?

Late to the game it seems.

I've had the following on my FReeper home page since shortly after it was originally posted on FR by Jim Robinson ca late 1998 =>

A return to a strictly Constitutional form of federal government will automatically repeal and abolish all unconstitutional federal involvement in states issues such as: crime, health, education, welfare and the environment. The Tenth Amendment will again be in effect, which will bar all federal attempts at legislating social issues.

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You've dodged the 10th Amendment question twice on this thread. It's a simple enough question. What is your answer?

[trebb]

So if we legalize meth underage usage will also go down?

Only if you promise to not bring the same argument into the guns arena.....

[Ken H]

Really? Source, please. Thanks.

From the article =>

"Also notable: according to the study, marijuana has gotten slightly more difficult for teens to obtain."

[Ken H]

I see that you were asking about alcohol v marijuana. Disregard my previous post.

[a fool in paradise]

Can you show me 10 of your posts going back to 1998 lashing out against alcohol and cigarette taxes?

[Ken H]

You challenged me on the Tenth Amendment and I rebutted you. Now you want to change the subject.

That also makes the third time you've dodged the Tenth Amendment question. Why no answer?

[a fool in paradise]

I challenged you on consistency on the issue of using the ATF (and federal government) to tax tobacco and alcohol since you want sacred pot exempted from these taxes.

16 years gives you a lot of territory to show you have been consistently vocal against beer and cig taxes at the federal level.

[Ken H]

I said the states, rather than the DEA, should regulate intrastate marijuana policies per the Tenth Amendment. If you understood the Tenth Amendment, you'd understand that that means Congress may tax alcohol, tobacco and pot when it enters foreign or interstate commerce. But not when these items are just intrastate.

Now are you going to address the Tenth Amendment, or are you going to chicken for the fifth time?