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To: ansel12; GeronL; DesertRhino
The issue of universal military service always gets people fired up with the "state-imposed slavery" whine but in a democracy, every able-bodied man should serve his country in some way. During the First and Second World Wars, men readily entered the army through the draft and served with courage and honor (my grandfathers were both drafted during WWI and served).

During Vietnam, we had a whole army full of draftees (never understood why the volunteers went to Germany and the draftees went to war). I remember them well in that they served with courage for the most part and I admired them since I was a volunteer, so I had no cause to gripe but they came and fought even though they didn't volunteer.

The big issue with discipline and criminal behavior in the army and the Marine Corps wasn't because of the draft - it was because of MacNamara's "Project 100,000" where they inducted/accepted enlistment for a huge glut of Category-Five mental midgets from the worst part of our society. MacNamara and his whiz kids apparently thought that just anybody can serve in our armed forces, so why not pump up the numbers with criminals and thugs? It took us years and who knows how many courts martials, expeditious discharges, and less-than-honorable discharges to finally purge the services of those scum.

Those of you who think you don't have a duty to serve your country in at least some capacity are essentially parasites: all free loading and benefits, no sacrifice. Do I want draft avoiders in my military unit? heck no! They without doubt know their own capabilities and courage levels and I am quite willing to accept their own assessments of themselves. Better for them to serve as donut dollies or maybe postal clerks and stay clear of the fighting men.

I am of the opinion though that if a man doesn't have the sand and competence to serve in uniform and maybe serve in combat, then he shouldn't try running for office or doing anything public. Best not to let the whole world know what they let somebody else take all the risks and difficulty in their place.

47 posted on 12/16/2014 6:38:04 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

serve the state, comrade!


58 posted on 12/16/2014 10:51:12 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Chainmail

Only those who serve the state should be able to run for office too, well golly gee, they can pay all the taxes too


59 posted on 12/16/2014 10:53:52 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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