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THREE DEAD IN BLOODY END TO SIEGE: Two hostages dead and Muslim gunman killed...
Daily Mail (Australia/UK) ^ | 16th December 2014 | Emily Crane and Daniel Piotrowski

Posted on 12/15/2014 12:31:49 PM PST by naturalman1975

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To: naturalman1975; TYVets
I wish there had been [weapons in the hands of the good citizens], because it might well have made a difference.

Indeed. The possibility of this sort of thing happening here motivates me to be armed whenever and wherever possible. Sadly, the places I feel the most need of defensive weaponry tend to be the least friendly to me having it. (Washington DC ... Yeah. I'm talkin' to YOU!)

41 posted on 12/15/2014 2:12:03 PM PST by NorthMountain
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To: naturalman1975

I like that ... I suppose you could add a verse every time something “big” happens ... eventually, it will rival “Edmund Fitzgerald” for length. ;’}


42 posted on 12/15/2014 2:14:47 PM PST by NorthMountain
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Arriving as a refugee in Australia in 1996, the hostage-taker was charged as an accessory to the murder of his ex-wife - who was allegedly stabbed and set on fire on a flight of stairs in her western Sydney apartment block in November 2013

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43 posted on 12/15/2014 2:16:31 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum...)
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To: Yaelle

yaelle, this line caught my eye as very PC (weak)

“Police issued a statement describing the event as a confrontation with a 50-year man”

Confrontation


44 posted on 12/15/2014 2:18:44 PM PST by roofgoat
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To: Responsibility2nd

I thought MSNBC would refer to him as Undocumented TROP.


45 posted on 12/15/2014 2:22:03 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: NorthMountain

US is importing “refugees” from many muslim countries.

Did you see that its happening in Cheyenne, WY?

I was there 10 years ago. Desolate and in the middle of nowhere. There will be very few areas in the US left where our Gov hasn’t placed 3rd world minded foreigners.

Carry something where you can.


46 posted on 12/15/2014 2:24:09 PM PST by roofgoat
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To: naturalman1975

My granddaughter learned that song for a school play. I love listening to her sing it with her Australian accent.


47 posted on 12/15/2014 2:25:24 PM PST by heylady
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To: naturalman1975

The words to that song almost make me weep, they were true to the spirit of this land - before islam entered it.


48 posted on 12/15/2014 2:35:55 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum...)
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To: naturalman1975

May the hostages RIP.


49 posted on 12/15/2014 2:36:47 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: naturalman1975

Sydney siege ends: victims identified

Barrister and mother of three, Katrina Dawson, and Lindt Cafe manager Tori Johnson were killed during the siege in Martin Place

http://media.smh.com.au/news/national-news/sydney-siege-ends-victims-identified-6095205.html


50 posted on 12/15/2014 3:54:55 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum...)
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51 posted on 12/15/2014 3:57:18 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum...)
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To: naturalman1975

I understand there is a huge nearly empty desert full of all sorts of lethal animal life in Australia. I suggest you shove everyone of these savages into it at the point of a bayonet.

Shoot any that resist.

L


52 posted on 12/15/2014 4:03:51 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Fred Nerks
The words to that song almost make me weep, they were true to the spirit of this land - before islam entered it.

They are still true - and Islam has been here a long time. So has Islamic terrorism. We are less than a month away from the 100th anniversary of the Battle of Broken Hill.

53 posted on 12/15/2014 4:09:45 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

THE manager of the Lindt Café Tori Johnson, 34, was one of the two hostages killed during the 16-hour siege, along with 38-year-old barrister Katrina Dawson.

Reports suggest Mr Johnson died after trying to knock the gun from the hand of Man Haron Monis shortly after 2am this morning.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/sydney-siege-tori-johnson-katrina-dawson-named-as-victims/story-fnqxbywy-1227157734252?nk=40715d2dbb114c7021ef83d5daf9eb83

In response to your comment, I speak as a post WW2 migrant, whose family had to pass a stringent background/health check prior to being admitted to this country. Apparently being a ‘refugee’ means you can lie to the authorities as this scumbag apparently did.
He received preferential treatment as a refugee because he was a member of the ROP. IMO
If he was in any way attached to government security in Iran I’ll eat any number of hats.
Iran would have been happy to see the backside of him. Heaven knows what he was up to over there.


54 posted on 12/15/2014 4:28:53 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks
If he was in any way attached to government security in Iran I’ll eat any number of hats. Iran would have been happy to see the backside of him. Heaven knows what he was up to over there.

All I know is he claims to have been part of Iranian Security and Intelligence. I don't know if that is true.

I do know that even the claim of it would not be a reason I'd let somebody stay in this country. In fact, it would have the opposite effect if I was making the decisions.

55 posted on 12/15/2014 4:31:59 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Too bad two hostages were lost, but that freak would have murdered all 17 if he was not attacked by the police.


56 posted on 12/15/2014 5:07:58 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Too bad two hostages were lost, but that freak would have murdered all 17 if he was not attacked by the police.


57 posted on 12/15/2014 5:08:10 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/religionreport/new-cardinals-for-rome-george-bush-muslims-in/3478556

show transcript

Wednesday 31 January 2001 12:00AM

David Rutledge spoke to him this week.

David Rutledge: Ayatollah, can you tell me how long have you been resident in Australia?

Manteghi Boroujerdi: I have been in Australia more than four years.

David Rutledge: And why did you leave Iran?

Manteghi Boroujerdi: Because my life was in danger, and if I would leave Iran maybe few weeks late, maybe I couldn’t leave Iran.

David Rutledge: What was your position in the government?

Manteghi Boroujerdi: In Iran, mostly I have been involved with the Ministry of Intelligence and Security.

David Rutledge: Your family is back in Iran and they’re not allowed to join you, is this correct?

Manteghi Boroujerdi: Yes, more than four years I have not seen my family, and the Iranian regime doesn’t let them come out. In fact I can say they are hostage; as a hostage the Iranian regime wants to make me silent, because I have some secret information about government, and about their terrorist operations in the war. I sent a letter to the Secretary-General of the United Nations and somebody on behalf of Mr Kofi Anan sent the answer, and they want to do something. I have hope and always I pray and ask God to solve my problem.

David Rutledge: What would happen to you if you went back to Iran?

Manteghi Boroujerdi: I would be executed.


I can’t see how he could claim to be an AYATOLLAH...methinks his ‘connection’ to the Iranian Security and Intelligence has more to do with his claimed refusal to adhere to the state sanctioned religion, it seems from what I have read, he attempted to establish a sect of his own, and after he arrived in Australia, he changed his name, and tried to set himself up as a ‘healer’ - his mental issues didn’t start here, he brought that with him.
If Australia was half as careful with vetting the ‘refugees’ as they were in the post-war years vetting the migrants from Europe, he would never have set foot in this country.
Now, I read that he claimed he was tortured whilst in prison in Australia. It’s always the same with islam, isn’t it?
The perpetrator claims to be the victim.


58 posted on 12/15/2014 5:15:44 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: naturalman1975

Just like the U.S., Australia is allowing those people in to the country to create violent chaos...

It then allows countries to increase and ramp up control, laws and regulations.

More control, more power.


59 posted on 12/15/2014 5:21:03 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Interesting. The perp had a wife and two daughters in Iran. He had a wife and two sons in Australia. And his girlfriend is implicated in the murder of the Australian woman:

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/sydney-siege-ends-family-of-exwife-noleen-hayson-pal-furious-gunman-on-bail-20141215-127z7s.html

The family of Noleen Hayson Pal, the slain ex-wife of the Sydney siege gunman, have expressed their anger that he was not behind bars.

Man Haron Monis, 50, who was shot dead by police in the early hours of Tuesday morning, was on bail after being charged with being an accessory before and after the fact to the 2013 murder of Pal.

A Facebook picture of Talat Khalik with Noleen Hayson Pal, who he calls his sister.
A Facebook picture of Talat Khalik with Noleen Hayson Pal, who he calls his sister.

Pal’s “god brother” Talat Khalik, who lives in California, posted a series of furious comments about Monis on Facebook.

“Thats systems tere f***d up but im still happy he.died [sic],” Mr Khalik, who refers to Pal as his sister, posted on his Facebook page.

“Fu**n lucky tey got u before we did now.rest in hell f****n asshole [sic].”

He also posted a picture of himself with his arm around Noleen, writing: “Noleen miss u [sic]”.

His mother, Momina Khalik, who also lives in California, said Monis should have been in custody.

“y the first place they let him free on the sydney streets they should have let him rot in the jail his a f****n sick animal [sic],” she posted.

Pal, 30, was stabbed multiple times and set alight in a western Sydney unit block in April 2013.

Monis and his then partner, Amirah Droudis, were both charged over the murder but they were given bail on December 12 last year.

“It is a weak case,” Magistrate William Pierce said at the time of the bail application.

Pal’s godfather Ayuut Khalik said the first time he met Monis he didn’t like him.

“They should have put him away and thrown away the key,” he told NBC News.

“Who do you blame? The Australian government? The judicial system?” he said.

Mr Khalik said that Monis and Pal had two sons.

Monis, a self-styled sheik, made Pal wear a hijab and stopped her from contacting non-Muslims, he said.

“We found out he was hitting her and stuff, and he was telling his kids white people are bad.”

Mr Khalik said when Pal came to stay with his family in California for a month last year he told her to be safe.

He said he found out Monis was involved in the hostage siege in Sydney when he received a Facebook message from a relative.

“It was like someone hit me with a sledgehammer,” he told NBC News. “I just prayed for the hostages.”


60 posted on 12/15/2014 6:42:35 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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