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1 posted on 12/15/2014 10:49:26 AM PST by EveningStar
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2 posted on 12/15/2014 10:50:18 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Carpool lanes - dumbest idea, ever.


3 posted on 12/15/2014 10:50:22 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: EveningStar

Leftists constantly say that that building more roads just makes traffic worse.

What’s Up With That: Building Bigger Roads Actually Makes Traffic Worse
http://www.wired.com/2014/06/wuwt-traffic-induced-demand/

The “fundamental rule” of traffic: building new roads just makes people drive more
http://www.vox.com/2014/10/23/6994159/traffic-roads-induced-demand

Why building new roads doesn’t ease congestion
http://bicycleuniverse.info/transpo/roadbuilding-futility.html


4 posted on 12/15/2014 10:54:06 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: EveningStar

30 mph gets the most vehicles past a given point over time.


5 posted on 12/15/2014 10:54:14 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: EveningStar

Solution? M79 grenade launcher. (bloop)....bang! lane’s clear.

CC


6 posted on 12/15/2014 10:55:01 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (Tagline Constructon zone- low humor ahead)
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To: EveningStar

Here’s a clue, if the cars to your right are passing you, you don’t belong in the car pool, lane.


7 posted on 12/15/2014 10:56:12 AM PST by morphing libertarian (Defund , sue, impeach. Overturn Obamacare, amnesty.)
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To: EveningStar

Better be careful ,the crazies will build Barracks at your Work Place and move you and your family there


9 posted on 12/15/2014 10:56:58 AM PST by molson209 (Blank)
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To: EveningStar; mikrofon; martin_fierro
“It takes you 10 minutes to get over to the carpool lane, and then you’re just stopped,”

Carpool Funnel Syndrome.

10 posted on 12/15/2014 10:58:05 AM PST by Charles Henrickson
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To: EveningStar

SoCal has decided to simply charge for the car pool lane now on some freeways.

Doesn’t matter how many are in the car.

The great leftist defender of the poor government has decided to build a two tiered system for wealthier vs poorer.


24 posted on 12/15/2014 11:12:12 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: EveningStar

What a joke!...I travel the 55 freeway in Orange County every Monday thru Friday early am and every other car in the car pool lane has tinted windows and one driver!


26 posted on 12/15/2014 11:12:56 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: EveningStar
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27 posted on 12/15/2014 11:14:06 AM PST by Dick Bachert (This entire "administration" has been a series of Reischstag Fires. We know how that turned out!)
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To: EveningStar

I spent last weekend in Los Angeles, traveling between Azusa, LAX and Orange County. I’ve still got lingering anger issues from driving those freeways. Thank GOD I don’t have to do it on a regular basis any more!


33 posted on 12/15/2014 11:18:36 AM PST by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: EveningStar
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37 posted on 12/15/2014 11:27:42 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: EveningStar

Put Freepers in charge and we’ll have those HOV lanes running 60MPH minimum within weeks.

Meanwhile its amusing seeing incompetent affirmative action gov’t employees screwing liberal save_the_planet goobers in the HOV lanes. A pox on both their houses, preferably Ebola


40 posted on 12/15/2014 11:33:22 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: EveningStar
Used to use the carpool lane every day with two other people in the car. It was nearly as slow as using the regular lanes until all the ‘buy into the lane’ programs stopped for a time, and all of a sudden, a 45 minute communte became 20 minutes, with 9 of it exiting the freeway.

Then the new series of ‘buy into the carpool lane’ programs started - hey, slap a natural gas sticker on your car and fill out a form with a picture of the sticker, and you too could buy your way into the lane. Once again, the travel time became 45 minutes.

43 posted on 12/15/2014 11:49:39 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: EveningStar

Problem in Southern California are those people driving in the HOV lane that have no business there.

Vehicles with one occupant with no HOV Sticker.

And there are tons of them.


45 posted on 12/15/2014 12:24:49 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: EveningStar

I don’t see the problem - California’s a liberal state, all they have to do is apply a liberal solution: redefine the mile or redefine the hour.


46 posted on 12/15/2014 1:28:18 PM PST by Stosh
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To: EveningStar

There was only one reason for a HOV lane.... To keep the bus on schedule. Later some found a way to charge for it.

It is mathematically proven that car pool lanes slow down overall flow. But it allows the bus to keep a schedule. We could talk math here, but most aren’t taught that in the US of A.


52 posted on 12/15/2014 7:38:28 PM PST by Quick Shot
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To: EveningStar
I like long commutes. Get to listen to Sirius radio. Get to listen to podcasts and MP3s. Watch all the idiots next to me getting into accidents and such.

An hour in the morning and an hour and a half on way home (because I like to take the scenic route).

No HOV lanes for me.

54 posted on 12/15/2014 7:43:48 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: EveningStar
Carpool lanes are so clogged in California, the state could lose federal funding and approval for projects if it doesn’t fix the problem.

If it comes down to a tug-of-war between the feds and the Jerry Brownian Calif***ians for who keeps the loot from federal gas taxes, I'm all in favor of it staying in corrupt Washington, D.C. rather than be squandered by CALTRANS.

Not that DOT would make better use of the funds than CALTRANS, because I'm sure they would not. They would undoubtedly be sent to other states to be wasted on bike paths or light rail construction which ultimately will become a money pit for those state and local governments to fill at the cost of foregoing worthwhile highway projects.

However, there is a positive side to Washington not funding Calif***ia's ever-expanding carpool network. As one of the largest recipients of federal transportation dollars, having their portion of the pot cut off for a minor infraction of the rules written into federal law to satisfy mostly anti-highway enviros and anti-growth Malthusians would sound the alarm that federal money is not free: accept it at your own risk.

The sooner large states such as Calif***ia get shorted by the feds and consequently have to go their own way toward funding local road projects the sooner we can bid adieu to the federal fuel tax. With the Interstate Highway System having been finished for twenty-five years, isn't it about time?

57 posted on 12/15/2014 10:13:51 PM PST by logician2u
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