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Opinion: Affordable Care Act still allows collecting information about gun ownership
guns.com ^ | 12/15/2014 | Vik Khanna

Posted on 12/15/2014 9:04:13 AM PST by rktman

No one should take their health care interactions for granted any longer. Be careful what you say, who hears you say it, and what they write down. Not too far in the future, we will look back on the concept of medical trust and the sanctity of the exam room as a quaint anachronism. Your best long-term bet is to stay as healthy as you can and as far away from the medical care industry as you possibly can.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: 2a; abortion; banglist; deathpanels; guncontrol; obamacare; zerocare
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No wonder that medicare keeps trying to get me to "take advantage" of depression/mental health counseling/screening. I rarely go to the doc anymore anyway. If I go, it's gonna be something serious.
1 posted on 12/15/2014 9:04:13 AM PST by rktman
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Get used to it! The entire Federal Government is under communists control. Both parties are saturated with communists. The problem is millions of Americans will never wake up and the rest are to passive to do anything. We are a lost nation when we lost God and the Constitution.


2 posted on 12/15/2014 9:09:23 AM PST by Logical me
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You can bet they know the latest on the kerdouchians though.


3 posted on 12/15/2014 9:10:24 AM PST by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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Two things conservatives and gun owners should do.
1. Stay healthy and avoid the health care system
2. If you do need a primary care physician, find an independent that does not use electronic records and pay in cash. Believe me, if you find one of those physicians, you won’t be asked about gun ownership because more likely than not, that doctor will be a conservative and gun owner.


4 posted on 12/15/2014 9:17:45 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. President zero gave us patient zero.)
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The libs are going to rue the day they decided to flush medical privacy down the toilet.

Amongst other things, Roe vs. Wade hangs on the issue of medical privacy.

Imagine a future government, who decides that they want to know all about people’s private activity. Genetic testing can tell them about sexual activity by tracking exposure to common and benign viruses. Testing of skin and hair samples can reveal what a person eats and drinks, including alcohol or illicit drugs. A simple physical exam can indicate whether or not a citizen is keeping up with his state mandated regimen of controlled diet and exersize.

They have thrown open the door and demanded that government get into our bedrooms and interfere in our private lives. It is a high price to pay for crappy “free” health care.


5 posted on 12/15/2014 9:29:17 AM PST by Haiku Guy (Every driver with a "Ready For Hillary" bumper sticker had to scrape off a "Obama 12" bumper sticker)
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Not too far in the future, we will look back on the concept of medical trust and the sanctity of the exam room as a quaint anachronism.

Trust in the media, FedGov, and our doctors have all followed the same path. They are not on our side, and we cannot afford to forget that.

6 posted on 12/15/2014 9:39:41 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Logical me

Look what the German people got...an evil dictator and millions of bombs dropped on them!!!


7 posted on 12/15/2014 9:45:30 AM PST by Stayfree (IThe White House Commie is no longer a bad joke, he is now public enemy #1)
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No wonder that medicare keeps trying to get me to "take advantage" of depression/mental health counseling/screening.

Your experience is similar to a couple I've had.

The first was about year ago when I received what looked like an innocuous, anonymous questionnaire from Medicare about my general satisfaction with my healthcare provider. Since I hate answering surveys, I tossed it. Then, surprise, I received a follow up this same "anonymous" questionnaire and I looked at it more carefully. It appeared not to have my name on it, but did have a computer bar code that was obviously there to provide the same information while fooling me into thinking they weren't after it. Then about 70% contained questions that were directed to my satisfaction with my healthcare provider; however, the remaining 30% were highly intrusive and individually directed. Needless to say , it followed its predecessor into the circular file.

I have some chronic health conditions that require me to see my doctor once every three months. Everything turned out well the last time I went. Then, about three weeks after my visit, I received a call out o the blue from his office and a female employee asked when they could schedule my "free" Medicare screening. I objected, saying I'd just had a follow up that went well and she replied that it wash' recommended by my doctor but was from Medicare. I've been on Medicare for for six years, never had anything like that happen before, and immediately refused to participate.

IMHO, they're definitely up to no good and I intend to be as uncooperative as I can legally get away with.

It also appears they're up to the same things with school kids. Parents should be equally uncooperative.

8 posted on 12/15/2014 9:49:48 AM PST by libstripper (")
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I answer questions on forms that ask me health questions yes and no depending on applicability. If they ask me about guns the answer is no, meaning I don’t answer non-health questions.


9 posted on 12/15/2014 9:53:31 AM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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It also appears they're up to the same things with school kids. Parents should be equally uncooperative.

I am going to have to teach my little one those six little words that any parent would be proud to hear, "It's none of your damn business!"

10 posted on 12/15/2014 9:54:12 AM PST by Haiku Guy (Every driver with a "Ready For Hillary" bumper sticker had to scrape off a "Obama 12" bumper sticker)
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I also haven’t “taken advantage” of the opportunity to do the alcohol/substance abuse counseling or the tobacco cessation counseling. As for the annual health screening? Nah. I do have to see the dermo a couple of times a year but I’m pretty silent there too.


11 posted on 12/15/2014 9:54:59 AM PST by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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To: Starstruck

LOL! That’s after you wade through the 12 pages of ethnicity/race listings. I just check “other” and write in “human” in the blank.


12 posted on 12/15/2014 9:57:06 AM PST by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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About a year ago I went to the doctor for my annual check-up. Prior to beginning the examination, she (the doctor) was looking through my file and noticed that there were several areas on the form that I failed to provide answers for. She went down the list of questions that I did not answer and insisted that I answer them. When she got down to the question about firearms, I told her: “It’s none of your damn business if I own any ‘guns’, but if you persist with this line of questioning I will be forced to shoot you and your entire staff.” She chuckled and replied, “OK, I think we’ll just skip the rest of the questionnaire and get on with the physical examination.” True story.


13 posted on 12/15/2014 10:38:25 AM PST by Roger Kaputnik
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I don’t understand all this hand-wringing. Just say No, that you don’t own any. Big deal. What is the nurse or doctor gonna do if you lie? Get you in “trouble”? Tell you mommy?


14 posted on 12/15/2014 10:44:15 AM PST by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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I told her: “It’s none of your damn business if I own any ‘guns’, but if you persist with this line of questioning I will be forced to shoot you and your entire staff.” She chuckled and replied, “OK, I think we’ll just skip the rest of the questionnaire and get on with the physical examination.” True story.

In most cases you would be in jail, good thing you had a sane questioner who did not report your statement.

15 posted on 12/15/2014 11:19:33 AM PST by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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I don’t understand all this hand-wringing. Just say No, that you don’t own any. Big deal. What is the nurse or doctor gonna do if you lie? Get you in “trouble”? Tell you mommy?

You have yet to be told how many felonies you committed by refusing to answer those questions, but you will soon know.

16 posted on 12/15/2014 11:21:52 AM PST by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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I’m not saying refuse to answer them. Anyway, refusing to answer is a “tell”. I’m advocating lying.


17 posted on 12/15/2014 11:26:43 AM PST by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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“I’m not saying refuse to answer them. Anyway, refusing to answer is a “tell”. I’m advocating lying.”

It is already a felony to lie to a federal law enforcement officer.

Can lying to federal health enforcement officer be far behind?


18 posted on 12/15/2014 2:29:33 PM PST by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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I’m not saying refuse to answer them. Anyway, refusing to answer is a “tell”. I’m advocating lying.

My stock answer to any question I consider intrusive is: "I can't recall".

19 posted on 12/15/2014 2:31:14 PM PST by dearolddad (/i>)
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To: itsahoot

She has been my doctor for the past 15 years. She knows me and I know her, so there was never any genuine threat from me towards her or vice versa.


20 posted on 12/15/2014 6:49:37 PM PST by Roger Kaputnik
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