Posted on 12/15/2014 4:26:33 AM PST by rootin tootin
The scariest words uttered during Jonathan Gruber’s recent appearance before the House Oversight Committee were “positive selection.” They were read aloud by Republican Rep. Thomas Massie, from a 1997 paper the professor co-authored concerning abortion. The opus in question made the Congressman uneasy because of the following passage: “By 1993 all cohorts under the age 19 were born under legalized abortion and we estimate steady state savings of $1.6 billion per year from positive selection.” Rep. Massie asked the professor what was meant by “positive selection.” This question was evidently not anticipated in Gruber’s pre-testimony coaching, so he became evasive.
Considering what it means, this is no surprise. “Positive selection” is no ordinary example of academic jargon. The term is frequently used by evolutionary biologists, who tell us it is responsible for the development of “traits that define our species—notably the enormous brain, advanced cognitive abilities, complex vocal organs, bipedalism and opposable thumbs.” And Gruber refers to mass abortions of unborn babies, whom he describes as “marginal children,” as an example of positive selection that includes the added benefit of saving the government money. Should we be worried that an architect of Obamacare seems to be an advocate of what sounds an awful lot like eugenics?
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This isn’t new.
Take a look at what was done in some Indian reservations. For that matter, look at the “vaccine” programs in parts of Africa.
Waiting for someone to weigh in on the side of eugenics and get themselves banned.
It has happened a number of times in the past year or so. Not just noobs either, a number of long time members.
Video: Abortion Doctor Says 'Ugly Black Babies' should be ABORTED.
Now that the left has come up with this nice, unassuming new label “positive selection” they are going to ram it down our throats. It’s always the same with these people they need a nice label for their societal destruction or their youth followers won’t by into it.
Ironically it is probably just such sentiments that could reduce the popularity of abortion. I imagine must posters here realize that if a community thought (or realized) that abortion was a weapon being used against it, then abortion would become to toxic to defend. The irony is that the only group about whom such a charge would be believed (the conservatives) is the group that actually opposes the practice.
If the left could tie such a charge around the conservatives necks they would greatly harm the conservatives. That they don’t do so makes me believe they place greater importance to some imagined benefit from abortion than they do to short term political advantage.
Gruber is starting to make the KKK look reasonable by comparison.
And “positive selection” was one of the primary motivations behind the founding of Planned Parenthood anyway, so Synergy.
Lamppost. 30’ Fresh Manila rope. Prozi Politician. Some assembly required.
Let’s see, from his accent, this abortion doctor is from India. I totally sympathize with his not wanting to support children that are not his own, but think abortion is murder nonetheless.
The antiabortionists are harassing him which is completely ineffectual. Yes, people, the dude is profiting. No you will not change his mind by harassing him.
Eugenic racism in 1925 was consensus science in the field of human evolution. By 1928 there were 376 university-level courses on eugenics, and there was widespread support from scientists and other academics at leading universities -- Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Stanford, and Johns Hopkins, to name a few -- as well as enthusiastic support from media and government. Eugenic science was funded lavishly by the Carnegie Institution, the Rockefeller Foundation, the Harriman Railroad foundation, and the wealthy businessman J.H. Kellogg. Many national and international conferences on eugenics and human evolution were hosted at leading research institutions, including the American Museum of Natural History, and eugenic science gained the imprimatur of leading scientific organizations, including the National Academy of Sciences, the American Medical Association, and the National Research Council. Wealthy donors created the Eugenic Records Office on Long Island, later to become the Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory. By the 1930s, thirty-one states in the U.S. would pass compulsory sterilization laws based on mainstream eugenic science and human evolution, and eugenics would receive the explicit endorsement of the Supreme Court in 1926. By the end of the first half of the 20th century, sixty thousand Americans had been sterilized involuntarily on the basis of consensus eugenic science.The following passages were taken from the biology textbook used by John Scopes, the teachings of which fueled so much controversy in the 1925 Scopes Trial in Dayton, Tennessee. - Hunter’s Civic Biology:…Racism and eugenics were the hallmarks of the theory of human evolution in the early 20th century, representing a clear consensus of evolutionary biologists as well as other scientists and leaders in higher education and government. There were a few dissenters, but such skeptics were disdained in mainstream scientific circles.
- Michael Egnor
Improvement of Man. - If the stock of domesticated animals can be improved, it is not unfair to ask if the health and vigor of future generations of men and women on the earth might not be improved by applying to them the laws of selection.In the Darwin view of humans as animals, what would cause us to stop practicing animal husbandry within our own species? Reduce the meaning of "human" to "just another animal", and eugenics is fair game. Scientific data is well supported in animal husbandry. Eugenics is only abhorrent to those who recognize that there is something transcendently special about humans.Eugenics. - When people marry there are certain things that the individual as well as the race should demand. The most important of these is freedom from germ diseases which might be handed down to the offspring. Tuberculosis, that dread white plague which is still responsible for almost one seventh of all deaths, epilepsy, and feeble-mindedness are handicaps which it is not only unfair but criminal to hand down to posterity. The science is of being well born is called eugenics.
Parasitism and its Cost to Society. - Hundreds of families such as those described above exist to-day, spreading disease, immorality, and crime to all parts of this country. The cost to society of such families is very severe. Just as certain animals or plants become parasitic on other plants or animals, these families have become parasitic on society. They not only do harm to others by corrupting, stealing, or spreading disease, but they are actually protected and cared for by the state out of public money. Largely for them the poorhouse and the asylum exist. They take from society, but they give nothing in return. They are true parasites.
The Remedy. - If such people were lower animals, we would probably kill them off to prevent them from spreading. Humanity will not allow this, but we do have the remedy of separating the sexes in asylums or other places and in various ways preventing intermarriage and the possibilities of perpetuating such a low and degenerate race. Remedies of this sort have been tried successfully in Europe and are now meeting with success in this country.
They’re both Democrats.
Gruber is starting to make the KKK look reasonable by comparison.
They’re both Democrats.
(should have added the line I was replying to. sorry)
Last week, we had a "lunch & learn" session with a new VP in the company--she comes in as a physician and clinician with a pretty long list of various credentials, but she had a "look" about her that was positively Gruber-esque.
As it turned out, she spoke long and hard about the "benefits" of working in the new ACA environment, and was a big cheerleader for socialized medicine. She spoke so highly of the Scandanavian countries and their "successes" with government healthcare. She showed some glossy statistics about how for as much as we spend on healthcare in this country, people are unhappy with their healthcare service.
Toward the end of her talk, she brought up the name Zeke Emanuel, as his comments about "75 being a good age to die." This speaker admitted that the "optics" didn't come across well, but she confessed that the topic of having living wills and discussing end-of-life scenarios was a positive. She even encouraged us to bring up the topic over the holidays, with family members! She clearly is a member of the "elites" that Gruber thinks is so much smarter than us stupid Americans, and believes strongly that costs are the most important factor when it comes to preserving life.
For someone in their 90's perhaps (I would never propose to say that all situations are equal), discussing end-of-life scenarios and whether a terminal condition should be prolonged may be reasonable. But euthanasia proponents like Emanuel are testing a very slippery slope here. Throwing our age limits and conditions of life becomes a negotiation--what are the costs vs. what can this person offer--the Emanuels of the world might even suggest this is a socetal question: if they survive, what can they offer society? Can they still work? Can they still pay taxes? Do the patients serve some purpose?
Very scary. Death Panels indeed.
It is not only abortion that is part of the eugenics. If more people were aware of the real reason for the evolution of the minimum wage was to separate out those who were considered “inefficient and prevent the multiplication of the breed,” per Royal Meeker, U.S. Commissioner of Labor, under Woodrow Wilson I wonder how many would be out there supporting this whole idea of ‘living wages.’
What I truly do not understand is that many of the programs that were started decades ago as a form of eugenics are not recognized today for the harm they have done to society as a whole. And, if many of the reasons given...like Royal Meeker’s are available to those who dare to look for them why Republicans/conservatives have never taken up the challenge of educating the masses?
The worst part is that many of the college educated think that Hitler was ok and that this is ok. They have been brainwashed into thinking that it is ok to take lives under certain circumstances. That is what happens when they are not taught to logically reason out to what they are agreeing. Love this video...180
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y2KsU_dhwI
Ezekiel Emanuel and John Holdren, Adolf
Eichmann incarnate.
Plus, you are one of the few at F.R. who can call "Mears", "kiddo" and get away with it!
At 69 years old, I'm a whipper snapper myself.
“At 69 years old, I’m a whipper snapper myself. “
You are barely out of adolescence,I am barely out of middle age.
The power of positive thinking. :-)
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Sorry, Graybeard...I did not mean to mis-represent. I was making an example, offering that perhaps if you're in your 90's, you might consider end-of-life scenarios and discuss them with your caretakers and family. I wasn't implying that I am in my 90's.
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