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Nothing Succeeds Like Liberal Secession: Blue America Without Red America Would Be A Basket Case
Townhall.com ^ | December 15, 2014 | Kurt Schlichter

Posted on 12/15/2014 4:03:01 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: ExCTCitizen

“I believe some parts of blue states would ask red American if they could join...the small towns of New England for instance...”

Large swaths of California, Oregon and Washington too. The large population centers are liberal. The suburban and rural areas are conservative.


41 posted on 12/15/2014 6:39:30 AM PST by passionfruit (When illegals become legal, even they won't do the work Americans won't do)
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To: rigelkentaurus
free states of America would be a vast improvement over our current situation.

Secession will not work. Libs will just cross the border, move in, and try to turn their new 'red' state location into the same kind of hell-hole they moved away from.

So, the 'blue' state nation/'red' state nation won't accomplish anything.

The 'red' states won't be able to keep the libs out. Heck, they can't even keep the flood of illegals out now.


42 posted on 12/15/2014 6:46:39 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

The piece actually addresses that: if you want to come over, become a citizen and vote, you need to provide two years of military service first.

Most Libs crossing the border aren’t going to do that.


43 posted on 12/15/2014 6:51:56 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: Sherman Logan

Ugh, not this meme again.

The great bulk of the expenditures in the those states receiving the most federal monies are military -as they have one or more bases in them.

Other states that receive a great deal of return are those with vast swaths of federal land — often overlooked. Or conveniently overlooked?


44 posted on 12/15/2014 6:57:37 AM PST by couch1971 (The stupid. It Burns.)
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To: Kaslin
Blue America – New England and the mid-Atlantic seaboard, back through Ohio, Indiana and Illinois, 

Where can I join the South Ohio Militia fighting to split the state and bring the southen part and most of Indiana into the Red States of America? We'll even call ourselves North Kentucky and drop the letter G from the ends of words if that would help us joinin' y'all.

45 posted on 12/15/2014 6:59:50 AM PST by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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To: passionfruit

I can’t imagine Indiana wanting to go with Blue America and Illinois south of I80 and west of I39 would want to be in Red America also.


46 posted on 12/15/2014 7:03:16 AM PST by Ann de IL
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To: Zippo44
Of course it's true that, fortunately for everyone, there would never be such a dissolution, unless, of course, the Decadence plunged the U.S.A. into a coast-to-coast Detroit, a not unlikely possibility, and state governments found themselves more powerful than a degenerated Federal Government and were able to commandeer military ordnance and organizations within their state borders. All this is amusing fantasy--nothing more. It will never happen, and it's a good thing that it won't.

If it did happen, the results would be very much as described in this fantasy. The "Republic of America" would become an economic powerhouse and a bastion of liberty, equality, and justice for all--i.e. The American Dream.

One sine qua non would be mandatory at the time of separation: The strict regulation of immigration into the "Republic of America".

I particularly liked this part:

"Blue America’s deficit exploded even as Red America balanced its budget, per the one new amendment it had added to the Constitution."
And this:

"The lie that was the liberal promise was there for all to see."

The lie that is the liberal promise is there right now for all to see. Those who want to see the truth already see it. Those who don't probably never will.

47 posted on 12/15/2014 7:04:19 AM PST by Savage Beast (Hubris and denial overwhelm Western Civilization. Nemesis and tragedy always follow.)
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To: Jagdgewehr

Roads, ag subsides, and welfare.

Roads are a big chunk of it. A state like say, Nebraska, doesn’t have the road fund to keep I80 up to code.


48 posted on 12/15/2014 7:04:52 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Zippo44

Your “let” is the key word. All will depend on if we let them let us. I think not.

This story could play out without any official secession necessary, all that is required is for us to practice States Rights.


49 posted on 12/15/2014 7:19:21 AM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Prolly not for long. Those dangling reparations will look mighty tempting.


50 posted on 12/15/2014 7:23:12 AM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: oblomov
But there is no way that Indiana would join Blue America.

Or Ohio. Or western PA. Or upstate NY. Blue America would end somewhere east of the Appalachians.

51 posted on 12/15/2014 7:24:43 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: central_va

No. Rear-view mirror tunnelvision.


52 posted on 12/15/2014 7:28:57 AM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

“The bad guys would still be setting up abortion boats off the coast of Louisiana.”

Boats sometimes sink. . . or so I’ve been told.


53 posted on 12/15/2014 7:29:05 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: Spktyr

There ya go!


54 posted on 12/15/2014 7:30:02 AM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: vladimir998
Boats sometimes sink. . . or so I’ve been told.

True. And even the French were able to deal with the Rainbow Warrior.
55 posted on 12/15/2014 7:32:50 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Sherman Logan
It's not clear what is included in federal spending. Does it include SS and Medicare payments to retirees who have migrated to the warm climate? Does it include operations costs and salaries spent supporting sprawling bases across the south? If so, that doesn't seem to be a reasonable definition of a dependency of the state on the federal government.

I'd also like to see a breakdown of red communities versus blue communities, in both blue and red states, to see if there is a similar correlation in the different dependencies.

56 posted on 12/15/2014 7:35:00 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: X-spurt

That’s exactly right - if each state asserted its rights over the fedgov, then no secession would be necessary.

However, that’s the whole issue, is it not?

They will not “let” the states assert their rights to avoid a secession solution, so secession (or Art V) is necessary.


I was thinking about the “free travel” and how the blue staters would try to escape their hell hole and bring hellish ideas with them -

the free states would certainly have to place SEVERE restrictions on Constitutionality of any gov’t actions, especially taxing and spending, in order to prevent the whole thing from happening again in the free states.


57 posted on 12/15/2014 7:39:26 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SoothingDave

The main problem we have in Western PA is Allegheny County. It has a very large senior population that will vote democrat until they die. Then there is the union contingent that still can’t figure out why all the steel mills went belly up. All in all, it is a heavy democrat stronghold. Once you literally leave the county line, it is conservative (with some dem’s sprinkled about that left their utopia county behind).


58 posted on 12/15/2014 7:47:09 AM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

There is information about methodology at the page. I agree that can significantly impact things.

However, it seems intuitive that states with higher incomes will on average pay higher income taxes and states with lower incomes will receive more transfer payments.

If somebody wants to put together what they think is a more fair comparison using better methodology, I’d like to see it.

Me, I don’t have the time or expertise. :)


59 posted on 12/15/2014 8:01:34 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Kaslin

Soon the Socialist Democratic Blue States of America may find out what life is like without the South. :-)


60 posted on 12/15/2014 8:26:33 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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