Posted on 12/14/2014 5:28:21 PM PST by cotton1706
Its a question that will prove crucial next year when Mitch McConnell takes the reins of a new Senate: Just how big is the Ted Cruz caucus?
Three votes on the cromnibus late Saturday night suggest it could be as large as 22 senators a dangerously high number for McConnell or as few as a handful.
Lets break down the three votes on filibustering the $1.1 trillion package, on Cruzs point of order aimed at targeting the presidents immigration action, and final passage.
The high-water mark for the Texas Republican came on his point of order vote, which 22 Republicans backed. While that represented a thumping, it could also be seen as a show of strength against the McConnell forces. Just 20 Republicans, including McConnell Republican Whip John Cornyn of Texas voted against Cruz; three did not vote.
Cruzs point of order itself basically contended that the underlying bill was unconstitutional because it didnt block President Barack Obamas immigration action. Many Republicans, including Cruz, say they oppose the immigration action but dont think the cromnibus itself is unconstitutional.
On final passage of the cromnibus, 18 Republicans voted no.
But only 12 Republicans joined Cruz in both votes for both his point of order and against the cromnibus. They are: Sens. Michael D. Crapo of Idaho, Charles E. Grassley of Iowa, Mike Lee of Utah, Jerry Moran of Kansas, Rand Paul of Kentucky, Rob Portman of Ohio, Jim Risch of Idaho, Marco Rubio of Florida, Tim Scott of South Carolina, Jeff Sessions of Alabama, Richard C. Shelby of Alabama and David Vitter of Louisiana.
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I've heard a lot of very good things about him, but he's barely moved the needle on the national level. Outside of places like FR, I don't think he's considered a serious contender.
My .02 cents.
I have been advocating the Patriots change party affiliation if that is the only way to deny these pigs a majority status. Either that or just shut up and quit promising we will get them next time, we are close to there never being another next time.
Daines is GOPe all the way. He was just elected to the senate, but he voted FOR the CRomnibus bill. Why would he do this with the next six years in the bag as a senator?
Because he will go along with the GOPe and whatever they want.
How many even live in their home district?
You can still vote for her, I certainly plan too as this is likely to be my last chance if I live that long.
I admire Cruz and his staunch support of Conservative/Constitutional principals, but what does it say about the state of our Nation when the most vocal defender of Americanism is a Cuban?
Cruz is no more a Cuban, than I am a Scotsman.
It's just a surname. He's been an American his entire life, and knows no other homeland.
Except for that part where he was born in Canada. I didn't toss that out as flame bait, just lamenting that we have families that have been here since the beginning and they produced not one outstanding Constitutionalist, I found it strange.
Do you remember the first few months of your life? Did the experiences of those few months imprint so strongly on your personality that they rooted you to the place you lived in at the time?
Of course not.
Ted Cruz spent every formative moment of his early childhood in this country, and more specifically, the state of Texas. He's as much an American citizen as anyone born on this soil. I think he's proven that in spades, in his short time in Congress.
don't remember last week too well, what is your point, because you missed mine entirely.
Walker has Norquist behind him so expect the terrorist money to start flowing in to Walker’s campaign.
Strange that you're asking me that, as I've made my point a couple times already. It's really not that complicated.
Ted Cruz was raised in America. Texas, specifically. It's the place and culture he's bonded to. Makes no difference whatsoever that he was born in Canada, as he bears no allegiance to that country, and has no natural bond to it. This is his home. America.
That was my entire response to your regret over him having been born outside the country.
You just want to pick an NBC fight and I won't play. I did not regret him being born outside the United States I acknowledge it.
Don't know how you came to that conclusion. I have no interest in picking a fight with anyone about Ted Cruz' eligibility.
You initially expressed a tone of regret that he was born in Canada. I merely responded that it's of little consequence because his heart and soul are rooted in this country.
That is all.
Cool.
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