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Gruber model errs in Colorado as Vermont prepares to rely on data
Vermont Watchdog ^ | December 12, 2014 | Bruce Parker

Posted on 12/13/2014 7:30:05 AM PST by george76

Jonathan Gruber’s health care forecasting is failing in Colorado as Vermont’s Gov. Peter Shumlin prepares to use the economist’s math for single-payer health care.

As Vermonters anxiously await a Gruber-modeled financing plan for Green Mountain Care, modeling done for Colorado’s health exchange by Jonathan Gruber Associates has proven wildly erroneous.

In 2011, following Colorado’s decision to set up a state health exchange for Obamacare, the state hired Gruber to forecast enrollment trends from which the state and federal government could estimate costs.

According to a presentation delivered to the Colorado Health Benefit Exchange Board on Sept. 16, 2011, and provided to Watchdog.org, Gruber predicted Medicaid enrollment in Colorado would grow from 440,000 enrollees in 2011 to 710,000 enrollees in 2016.

Actual 2014 data reported by the Colorado Department of Health Care Policy and Financing shows the number of people enrolled in the state’s Medicaid program has grown to more than 1.1 million — a miscalculation of about 400,000 enrollees.

The miscalculation is growing rapidly, as the state reported 12,533 new Medicaid sign-ups in the two-week period between Nov. 15 and Nov. 30.

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Jonathan Gruber’s answers to the Oversight Committee should give Vermonters pause. Governor Shumlin should fully terminate Prof. Gruber from his Vermont contract. Now that Gov. Shumlin and Vermonters have seen how deceitful and calculating he is, there is no way to trust his professional judgment or his economic modeling

(Excerpt) Read more at watchdog.org ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado; US: District of Columbia; US: Massachusetts; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: abortion; colorado; deathpanels; districtofcolumbia; gruber; healthcare; jonathangruber; massachusetts; medicaid; obamacare; petershumlin; vermont; zerocare
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1 posted on 12/13/2014 7:30:05 AM PST by george76
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so....we are all pregnant with anticipation of Herr Gruber’s return of the monies to Colorado he received for the defective work. /s


2 posted on 12/13/2014 7:34:02 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: george76

I predict that Shumlin will go right along with the plan. The socialist people of Vermont will cry loudly if he doesn’t.


3 posted on 12/13/2014 7:38:03 AM PST by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: george76

Colorado gets Gruberized.


4 posted on 12/13/2014 7:44:25 AM PST by sr4402
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To: george76

Chickenlooper couldn’t WAIT to be all progressive and all.

Putz


5 posted on 12/13/2014 7:44:55 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: george76

Health Care for Dummies.


6 posted on 12/13/2014 7:45:05 AM PST by MUDDOG
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To: george76

unexpected (now can i get a phd in economics from mit?)


7 posted on 12/13/2014 7:46:38 AM PST by SteveH
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To: george76

Too many dopers moved to Colorado.


8 posted on 12/13/2014 7:47:05 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: MileHi; dynachrome; Balata; bboop; BulletBobCo; Carley; ColoCowgirl; Colorado Doug; ...

Colorado Ping ( Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from the list.)


9 posted on 12/13/2014 7:47:46 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: MileHi

Yes.

Big Putz


10 posted on 12/13/2014 7:49:02 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: raybbr

I lived there for 8 years and my in laws live there still. I have no doubt you are correct.


11 posted on 12/13/2014 7:49:13 AM PST by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: george76

It is debatable as to whether those most inept at math go into politics or economics.

in the case of Grubdork, he has managed to be a massive fail at both low IQ tasks.


12 posted on 12/13/2014 7:49:43 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: george76

The Gruber model relies on global warming.


13 posted on 12/13/2014 7:50:19 AM PST by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: george76
Ha...Economics.....in "Trivia Quiz" there are 400 Economics questions....

...and a thousand answers.

14 posted on 12/13/2014 8:00:03 AM PST by spokeshave (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people,)
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To: george76

The states that authorized the Medicaid expansion are going to get creamed. Our federal taxes pick up most of the tab for the first few years, but then more and more falls on the state. Then the state taxpayers get soaked.

McAuliffe has been pushing this hard in VA, but so far the legislature has said no. Examples like VT and CO are going to make it even harder for states who have resisted to adopt the expansion.


15 posted on 12/13/2014 8:05:15 AM PST by randita (Obama entrusted the transformation of the best healthcare system in the world to a scam artist.)
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To: george76

Colorado’s $800 m cost over run on this puts in in a league with Boston’s Big Dig. Plus, I guess the cost of the Medicaid expansion runs to perpetuity.


16 posted on 12/13/2014 8:08:40 AM PST by gusopol3
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Gruber knew the state exchanges were critical to Obamacare. If he’d told the truth about what it was going to cost the state, they might have said “forget it”.


17 posted on 12/13/2014 8:10:05 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: spokeshave; george76; SunkenCiv; Nachum; narses
Ha...Economics.....in “Trivia Quiz” there are 400 Economics questions....

...and a thousand answers.

And NONE of them right.

18 posted on 12/13/2014 8:14:59 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: gusopol3

Just the beginning as the illegals and other lazy lefties will move to states with the most free stuff.

Then move on to the next host when the current host dies.


19 posted on 12/13/2014 8:20:56 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Herr Gruber is as brilliant as most professors are…a legend in his own mind. Exhibit A: Barack Obama.


20 posted on 12/13/2014 8:45:54 AM PST by txrefugee
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