[Soul of the South]

“It’s always the same old sheet. “We’ll get ‘em next time.””

* Early 2014 - Vote for us. We’ll fight for you.
* 2014 after the election - We have to pass this budget or we’ll be accused of shutting down the government. Next year when the Senate is sworn in we’ll fight.
* 2015 - We can’t have a budget showdown this year. It will hurt our prospects in 2016. After all we can’t win against a President with a veto.
* 2016 - We can’t have a budget fight in an election year but vote for us because we’ll fight for you once we capture the White House.
* 2017 - President Elizabeth Warren or Hillary Clinton sworn in with majorities in the House and Senate. Historians note this event effectively marked the end of the Republic. From that point on there was no opposition party.

[grania]

I never believe it when a DC vote "barely passes". All that means is that the fake-conservatives (that's most of them) got together in a back room and decided who was most likely to get re-elected in spite of ignoring campaign promises. This vote was too much though; it passed after the time expired.

Our only chance is if the real conservatives stay in the Republican Party long enough to vote for a new Speaker, a true constitutional conservative. Then, the constitutional conservatives should form a new party. They can then vote as a bloc on every issue, and stop the sleazy stuff from passing. As a bloc, they'd be harder to manipulate.

Do I think that will happen? No. This last Boehner move is more despicable than even Obama and Pelosi at their worst. I don't know how this oligarchy is saved. And I don't think it should be.

JMHO

[gunsequalfreedom]

How did he vote on the actually spending bill?