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Republican Bigwigs Will Own the Tea Party [Link Only]
Bloomberg [Link Only] ^ | December 10, 2014 | Ramesh Ponnuru

Posted on 12/11/2014 11:08:02 AM PST by C19fan

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-12-10/republican-bigwigs-will-own-the-tea-party

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016; gop; potus
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http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-12-10/republican-bigwigs-will-own-the-tea-party
1 posted on 12/11/2014 11:08:02 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-12-10/republican-bigwigs-will-own-the-tea-party


2 posted on 12/11/2014 11:08:08 AM PST by C19fan
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The article leaves out how the number of people who make up the Big Money GOPe could be gathered together in a large banquet hall while the Tea Party compromise millions of individual voters. So the Establishment has the ability to coordinate and select a favorite that is impossible for the Tea Party and other ideological subsections of the GOP.


3 posted on 12/11/2014 11:08:21 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan

It is time to the leave the GOP as the GOP has left us a LONG time ago...


4 posted on 12/11/2014 11:12:25 AM PST by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: C19fan

Curious. I’m a Tea Partier, and those opportunistic political demagogues will never own me because they don’t have what I want, which is freedom from government interference in my private life.

Anyone in the Tea Party like me, and there are many, are also immune to these guys.


5 posted on 12/11/2014 11:14:22 AM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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I think what they mean is that the GOP will be owned by the GOPe and they will crowd the TEA Party out.


6 posted on 12/11/2014 11:20:22 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The GOP is owned by the GOPe and Big Money. If the Tea Party wants any clout, it must either raise enough money to buy out the GOPe -- or start a new party.
7 posted on 12/11/2014 11:25:11 AM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Publius

Just let the GOPe die on the electoral vine.


8 posted on 12/11/2014 11:27:25 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: C19fan

How can they “own” Tea Partiers like me who don’t put blind faith in any politician? How can they own those of us who believe there’s ONLY ONE language politicians understand and it’s the language of ACTION: voters throwing misbehaving politicians OUT OF OFFICE. Nothing else matters to them.

People like me believe politicians and politics are about political profitability. Politics is a competitive business just like anything else and politicians are interested in extending their livelihood just like everyone else.

Many of us agree with what Milton Friedman had to say about politics and political parties:

“People in Congress are in the business of buying votes and competing with one another to get elected. The same Congressman will vote for a different thing if he thinks it is politically profitable. People think you solve problems by changing Congress and electing the right people. It’s nice to elect the right people but that isn’t the way you solve things. The way you solve things is by making it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right things. Unless it is politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing, the right people will not do the right thing either...”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEVI3bmN8TI

They won’t crowd us out. The revolutionaries were a minority also. But they believed in freedom as we do. These political establishment “bigwigs” don’t believe in anything and can, therefore, be defeated. We, who have faith, patience, and courage, are stronger than they.


9 posted on 12/11/2014 11:29:04 AM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: Paladin2

To “let it die on the electoral vine” would mean abandoning it for a new party and leaving the GOP’s financing to Big Money. You would have to reduce it to an empty husk with a lot of money and few voters.


10 posted on 12/11/2014 11:34:44 AM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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“So the Establishment has the ability to coordinate and select a favorite that is impossible for the Tea Party and other ideological subsections of the GOP.”

That’s no excuse. It’s long past time that we got a “Tea Party Convention” going, before the Republican primary season, with delegates nominated by the local tea party groups to select a conservative candidate we can get behind. I think that something like that is the only way we can present a united front against the establishment GOP.


11 posted on 12/11/2014 11:41:41 AM PST by Boogieman
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Only when they pry my tea cup from my cold dead hands!


12 posted on 12/11/2014 11:50:26 AM PST by TYVets
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Fast forward to October 2016.

“Tea Party people please vote for our Rino. Please, please, please vote.You don’t want a Democrat to win. Do you? Pllleeeeaaassssee!”

Nov 2016

“Who in the #&^%&% is the Tea Party, and why should we listen to them”


13 posted on 12/11/2014 11:56:38 AM PST by 728b (Never cry over something that can not cry over you.)
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To: Boogieman; All
It’s long past time that we got a “Tea Party Convention” going, before the Republican primary season, with delegates nominated by the local tea party groups to select a conservative candidate we can get behind. I think that something like that is the only way we can present a united front against the establishment GOP.

AWESOME IDEA!!! But, I have two Questions:
1. How can we pull off your plan?
2. How could we get the contenders who don't make the cut to swallow their ego and step aside?
14 posted on 12/11/2014 12:14:08 PM PST by Din Maker (Is anyone considering Gov. Susana Martinez of NM as the possible GOP nominee in 2016?)
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They wish they could own the TEA Party.

However, no one is in charge of it. It is completely a truly grassroots operation. People who have tried to gain control of it have been happily outwitted by a higher power.

If you - bloomy and gop country-clubbers - think you can use an old commie tactic to marginalize it, then we'll all just see if y'all can do it.

15 posted on 12/11/2014 12:19:32 PM PST by Slyfox (To put on the mind of George Washington read ALL of Deuteronomy 28, then read his Farewell Address)
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To: PapaNew

>>Anyone in the Tea Party like me, and there are many, are also immune to these guys.<<

Amen! They will not lord over me.


16 posted on 12/11/2014 12:27:09 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: Din Maker; Boogieman

The Tea Party doesn’t want to centralize. They are true believers in freedom and America and are smart enough to realize that once you create an official political party, the raison d’etre immediately changes to political party self-preservation over the best interests of America - what has happened to all political parties to date.

Best answer, see post #9.


17 posted on 12/11/2014 12:34:45 PM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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There are not enough of us

Rush is right


18 posted on 12/11/2014 12:36:49 PM PST by wardaddy (glenn beck is a nauseous politically correct conservative on LSD)
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To: C19fan

Republican bigwigs, through their minions, are insinuating themselves into positions within our Tea Party groups and influencing directions and outcomes as best they can. Many of our Tea Party rank and file are relative political newbies, and can be misled if they believe that some like-minded someone with leadership skills is supporting a certain issue or candidate. I have personally seen this happen in a 2014 Primary campaign.


19 posted on 12/11/2014 1:35:42 PM PST by LTC.Ret (I was Constitutional Conservative when it wasn't Cool)
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To: Din Maker

“1. How can we pull off your plan?”

Well, I’m just the idea man, but I imagine it would take a lot of people volunteering for some hard work to organize it.

“2. How could we get the contenders who don’t make the cut to swallow their ego and step aside?”

That’s easier to answer. We simply let them know that anyone who doesn’t participate in our “pre-primary process”, or who doesn’t respect the results, is going to be blacklisted. No more tea party fundraisers to fill their campaign coffers, no more volunteers to man their phone banks, etc.


20 posted on 12/11/2014 2:20:19 PM PST by Boogieman
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