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So-called torture report is Democrats' distraction from these six unpleasant issues
Cain TV.com ^ | December 11, 2014 | Herman Cain

Posted on 12/11/2014 10:54:41 AM PST by Kaslin

No. Look this way. Not that way.

You have to ask: If it's such a serious issue for the Bush Administration to have "tortured" detained terrorists back when we still had a president who cared about fighting terror, why did Senate Democrats wait seven years to release their report on this purported atrocity?

The answer is simple: Politics. On the one hand, they're running out of time as the Senate majority. But more importantly, there are serious issues that demand the attention of the public, and it's not in Democrats' interests to have the public pay attention to these things. That's why, having kept this assortment of their uninformed opinions diguised as a "report" in their back pockets for seven years, they're releasing it now.

It's time for a series of lectures about how horrible it is to "torture" terrorists so we don't talk about a whole host of other things, particularly these things:

  1. The election results, both federal and state. With Democrats having gotten their clocks cleaned at every level, we can't spend time mulling the aspects of governance under the Democrats that have everyone so dissatisfied. Better to rehash things the Democrats used to upset people a decade ago when Republicans were in power. That's much more relevant.
  2. Grubergate. Coincidence that the "report" on "torture" came out the same day Jonathan Gruber was hauled in front of Congress to testify about the Democrats' misleading of the American people - made necessary, he explains, by our "stupidity"? I think not. Speaking of which . . .
  3. ObamaCare. It’s imploding, and even past and present Democrat senators like Chuck Schumer and Tom Harkin are now admitting it's a train wreck and was a bad idea in the first place. What do you do with that? Change the subject to "torture," of course!.
  4. Unemployment. Now you might think Democrats would want to talk about this because the unemployment rate as traditionally announced by the Labor Department is down. But you know what? The real unemployment rate, which counts the underemployed and those who have given up looking for work, exceeds 10 percent. Pay much attention to the real employment picture and it's trouble for Democrats.
  5. The IRS scandal. Oh no, this hasn't gone away. Lois Lerner's e-mails have finally been recovered and they are sure to contain a treasure trove of information about how the IRS targeted conservative groups. We already know that certain senators, including Chuck Schumer and Carl Levin, publicly demanded that the IRS do this. Any bets on whether it was understood to be a priority of the Obama White House as well?
  6. The national debt passed $18 trillion in the last couple of weeks, and you barely heard a word about it from the media. Now the "report" on "torture" gives them another excuse to ignore the story. By the way, in case you've forgotten, $10 trillion of that was accumulated under the 43 presidents from Washington to Bush. That means $8 trillion has been accumulated under Obama. Now that's some achievement.

Better change the subject to something! Hey Senator Feinstein! Do we still have that torture report sitting around somewhere? Better release it now or the news cycle is going to kill us!



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: demonrats

1 posted on 12/11/2014 10:54:41 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

This is a very good article and a useful primer for people like me on why the Dems do the things they do. Good tight writing without a lot of embellishment.


2 posted on 12/11/2014 10:59:49 AM PST by lee martell
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To: Kaslin
So-called torture report is Democrats' distraction from these six unpleasant issues

Thanks for posting. Herman is so right! These six need repeating ….

1. The election results
2. Grubergate
3. 0bamaCare.
4. Unemployment.
5. The IRS Scandal.
6. The $18 trillion national debt.

3 posted on 12/11/2014 11:01:49 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Kaslin

These six are a good start, but nowhere near a complete list.


4 posted on 12/11/2014 11:02:46 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Right but that is hardly a complete list.


5 posted on 12/11/2014 11:04:59 AM PST by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: Kaslin

7. Benghazi

8. Fast and Furious

If it is legit to trod ground already covered in the Bush II
administration then nothing has to be off the table with regard to the Obama regime. In fact, I think we should reopen investigations regarding missiles smashing into pill factories during the Clinton regime.


6 posted on 12/11/2014 11:19:03 AM PST by Sivad (NorCal red turf ;-))
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To: Vigilanteman

True, but where has anyone seen even these mentioned in the MSM?


7 posted on 12/11/2014 11:27:58 AM PST by rhubarbk (2014: First Flush . . . 2016: Final Flush)
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To: Servant of the Cross

I don’t see amnesty on the list.


8 posted on 12/11/2014 11:37:38 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Those who profess noblesse oblige regress to droit du seigneur.)
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To: Kaslin

Let’s get real here and it’s been reported in the past:
“The freakin Senate Intelligence Commitee was apprised of this as it was occuring”.

No one said “Hey, that’s not what we’re about. Stop”

Here are just some examples of what really happened and don’t fool yourself about any lady or grandmother being saintly and sweet.

In September 2002, four members of Congress met in secret for a first look at a unique CIA program designed to wring vital information from reticent terrorism suspects in U.S. custody. For more than an hour, the bipartisan group, which included current House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), was given a virtual tour of the CIA’s overseas detention sites and the harsh techniques interrogators had devised to try to make their prisoners talk.

“...on that day, no objections were raised. Instead, at least two lawmakers in the room asked the CIA to push harder, two U.S. officials said.

“The briefer was specifically asked if the methods were tough enough,” said a U.S. official who witnessed the exchange.”

The lawmakers who held oversight roles during the period included Pelosi and Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.) and Sens. Bob Graham (D-Fla.) and John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), as well as Rep. Porter J. Goss (R-Fla.) and Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kan).

http://www.truth-out.org/archive/item/74915-hill-briefed-on-waterboarding-in-2002

See any freakin democrats on that list?

Fk them and their pure as the driven snow and high moral standing.

They approved of it and wondered if we could do more.

Like what? Serve em a birthday cake?

Cuz the sure in the hell wasn’t what they were asking.

None of the other lawmakers briefed raised formal objections. Those lawmakers included former Sen. Bob Graham (D-FL), former Sen. John Rockefeller IV (D-WV), former Rep. Porter Goss (R-FL) and Sen. Pat Roberts (R-KN).

“Individual lawmakers’ recollections of the early briefings varied dramatically, but officials present during the meetings described the reaction as mostly quiet acquiescence, if not outright support,” the Post added. ‘Among those being briefed, there was a pretty full understanding of what the CIA was doing,’ said Goss, who chaired the House intelligence committee from 1997 to 2004 and then served as CIA director from 2004 to 2006. ‘And the reaction in the room was not just approval, but encouragement.’”

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Pelosi_did_not_object_to_waterboarding_1209.html

There are more articles detailing just who knew and approved of this but, suffice to say if George Bush was such a bastard what does that make Pelosi and Rockefeller?

Dianne did not do her friends any favors and I hope the alternative media, at least, picks up on this.

If the Democrats want to serve as moralists, in hindsight, then let’s put everyone on the same pile of crap they are shoveling.


9 posted on 12/11/2014 11:43:27 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Carry_Okie
IMHO, it doesn't matter about the comprehensiveness of this list. What matters is that we are talking about the substantive items on the list and not rehashing a 2001 debate over the definition of "torture" or that President Bush was authorized by Congress through the AUMF to use "all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines ... in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States.

As Louis Freeh states in today's WSJ, the Senate democrats have 9/11 Amnesia. And we shouldn't be distracted by it.

10 posted on 12/11/2014 11:47:27 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross

The biggie, over the last few and next few days, IS amnesty. Hence, for Cain to “overlook” it is both indicative and deliberate and the comment therefore justified.


11 posted on 12/11/2014 11:49:09 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Those who profess noblesse oblige regress to droit du seigneur.)
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To: Kaslin

This strategy wouldn’t work without news media lickspittles.


12 posted on 12/11/2014 11:55:38 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Kaslin
Although little over all effect politically (Herself was all for the war don't forget so it will not be spoken of from now until after Nov 2016)is was still well played by the democRATS.
13 posted on 12/11/2014 12:05:10 PM PST by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: Kaslin

It is a direct attempt to get back into the “It’s all Bush’s fault” mentality.


14 posted on 12/11/2014 12:05:11 PM PST by pfflier
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To: lee martell

They were counting on Ferguson Riots to go on a little longer, so this was Plan B.


15 posted on 12/11/2014 12:38:31 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Kaslin

The CIA report was specifically released at this time to provide cover for Rino republicans trying to ram Obama’s amnesty down our throats.

It replaced amnesty talk.

Fox is complicit, and we already know that ABC/CBS/NBC/MSNBC/CNN are worse


16 posted on 12/11/2014 1:23:58 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Sivad
In fact, I think we should reopen investigations regarding missiles smashing into pill factories during the Clinton regime.

And how the Tomahawk missile, phased-array Aegis radars, and the W-88 neutron bomb wound up in the Chinese order of battle.

And how Slick wound up wearing a Chinese leash and reciting "the three 'NO's" like a trick circus dog.

17 posted on 12/11/2014 4:01:40 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house, the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: Kaslin
The report has done almost no interviews and is only a Democrat opinion peace.
It is hurting our moral authority and safety abroad and Democrats will be held accountable.
Rush is right when saying liberals go nuts after losing elections and this is one such "nuts action" and I think a vast majority of voters in this case know it.
18 posted on 12/11/2014 4:08:12 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Kaslin

Torture has traditionally been used to extract information from reluctant adversaries, and yet demRATs write their legislation in a “tortured way” to restrict information to inquiring citizens.


19 posted on 12/11/2014 8:49:28 PM PST by clearcarbon
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