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Remember Kelly Thomas?
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| December 11, 2014
| Michael Reagan
Posted on 12/11/2014 6:19:01 AM PST by Kaslin
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posted on
12/11/2014 6:19:01 AM PST
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Kaslin
To: Kaslin
Police in America are by and large good, but some are out of control, and will kill when they get the chance to.
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posted on
12/11/2014 6:27:06 AM PST
by
stockpirate
(The Republican leadership are all Socialists, every one of them just like the fascist democrats.)
To: Kaslin; All
"Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted and you create a nation of law-breakers and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with. ― Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, 1957
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posted on
12/11/2014 6:33:13 AM PST
by
skinkinthegrass
("Bathhouse" E'Bola/0'Boehmer/0'McConnell; all STINK and their best friends are flies. d8^)
To: Kaslin
To: Kaslin
Oh come on, we are NOT going to dismantle the Police State just because a few innocent citizens die. A Police State is a Safe State, got it?
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posted on
12/11/2014 6:34:30 AM PST
by
eyeamok
To: Kaslin
We've lowered standards and hired people who are under-qualified or not suited psychologically to be cops in the first place. Courts have ruled that PD's can discriminate on hiring based on someone having a too high of IQ.
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posted on
12/11/2014 6:41:16 AM PST
by
mountn man
(The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
To: Kaslin
Michael hits this one out of the park.
Yes some cops are retarded and they are found in many precincts.
The predicament is in the difficulty inherent in disciplining stupidity and ensuring that discipline policies for ‘dumbness’ do not affect normal cops.
Another difficult is a police force invests a lot in every cop and ‘dumbness’ is often viewed as a temporary attribute that will eventually be corrected by experience. But such views fail to correlate ‘dumbness’ with ‘stupidity’ where ‘stupid’ means an inability to learn, therefore experience will not solve a problem of learning impairment.
Yet another predicament is the camaraderie, esprit de corps and brotherhood that evolves among cop peers that acts as an impediment to weeding out dumb cops. As long as a dumb rookie is affable, chances are his peers will circle around him and protect his back.
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posted on
12/11/2014 6:47:33 AM PST
by
Hostage
(ARTICLE V)
To: Kaslin
Good article. Thanks for posting.
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posted on
12/11/2014 6:48:56 AM PST
by
sitetest
(If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
To: Kaslin
I didn’t see the Kelly death as that scandalous. Kelly acted and looked to be a threat IMO.
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posted on
12/11/2014 6:57:39 AM PST
by
BunnySlippers
(I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
To: Kaslin
New York's lawmakers have jacked up the tax on cigarettes so high that they've created a black market and turned harmless entrepreneurial people like Garner into criminals. Fair Tax fans take note.
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posted on
12/11/2014 7:30:46 AM PST
by
Carry_Okie
(Those who profess noblesse oblige regress to droit du seigneur.)
To: Kaslin
The team of cops who killed Eric Garner shouldn't have been wasting their time harassing him for his minor victimless crime.
The store owner called the police and made an official complaint against Mr. Garner, who was conducting business outside of his store and causing problems with his customers. Should the police have decided this store owner's complaint was not worthy?
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posted on
12/11/2014 7:32:03 AM PST
by
wbarmy
(I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
To: Hostage
The predicament is in the difficulty inherent in disciplining stupidity and ensuring that discipline policies for dumbness do not affect normal cops. The predicament is in unionized police that develop all these idiotic "officer safety" rules that allow a cop to employ deadly force based upon how he feels and bring multiple officers to a routine arrest or infraction, elevating an unpleasant affair to a serious and threatening confrontation where group-think and peer pressure to "kick ass" take charge.
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posted on
12/11/2014 7:34:35 AM PST
by
Carry_Okie
(Those who profess noblesse oblige regress to droit du seigneur.)
To: stockpirate
Just like nurses, they are good nurses and there are bad nurses
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posted on
12/11/2014 7:41:03 AM PST
by
Kaslin
(He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
To: Kaslin
It is next to impossible to convict police officers in situations when the person they were trying to subdue was resisting arrest. The juries almost always side with the police officers even in liberal states like CA and NY. Intent is always a critical factor in these cases.
To: Kaslin
Does Michael Reagan still have a talk show? Podcast, etc?
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posted on
12/11/2014 8:31:27 AM PST
by
JohnnyP
To: JohnnyP
It doesn’t look like that he has one
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posted on
12/11/2014 8:47:18 AM PST
by
Kaslin
(He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
To: BunnySlippers
Respectfully, Kelly Thomas was well known to Fullerton P.D., as a mentally ill, homeless man, who was non threatening, or violent. He had multiple encounters with them. The general consensus was that he represented a quality of life problem, in the downtown area, and that the P.D. was tired of dealing with him; they were going to ‘teach him a lesson’, and motivate him to be a transient, elsewhere. It turned into a matter of ‘can you top this’, each cop trying to outdo the other.
In the portion of the video you saw, he was, at that point, literally fighting for his life. Thank you.
To: jttpwalsh
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posted on
12/11/2014 11:13:40 AM PST
by
BunnySlippers
(I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
To: BunnySlippers
Thanks for the reply, sorry for the presumption.
To: Kaslin
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posted on
12/11/2014 6:11:26 PM PST
by
gaijin
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