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Megyn Kelly And The Abortion Phile
Townhall.com ^ | December 10, 2014 | Mike Adams

Posted on 12/10/2014 4:57:16 AM PST by Kaslin

Note: The segment referred to in this column can be viewed by clicking on this link.

Last week, I had a chance to film a segment on "The Kelly File" with Megyn Kelly. It was a short interview, running a total of just five minutes. For many viewers, one small portion of the interview, running less than thirty-seconds, overshadowed the rest of our exchange.

Take a moment to watch the video portion between the 2:20 –and 2:45 mark. This was the point where many viewers perceived that Megyn was correcting me for using the label “pro abortion” instead of the label “pro choice.” This was followed by her observation that “whatever your views on abortion” celebrating the end of a pregnancy is “a little beyond.” By using the term “beyond,” she seemed to be saying that such a celebration was “beyond the pale.”

As you can see during the segment, I had an opportunity to justify my use of the “pro abortion” label. Indeed, the event I was talking about was one where “I Had an Abortion” tee shirts were being sold to students so they could walk around campus advertising the fact that they had aborted their babies. That the event was indeed pro abortion certainly seemed to register with Megyn, as one would expect. She’s a sharp interviewer. So I was perplexed by the correction. Perhaps Megyn was just trying to keep the attention of abortion supporters.

But time did not permit me to address the part I think Megyn got wrong, which is the idea that celebrating abortion is beyond the pale regardless of your stance on abortion. This is the error that needs to be addressed. It is fundamentally more important than any controversy over the use of labels.

Put simply, whether or not celebrating abortion is beyond the pale is very much contingent upon one’s stance on the legal status of abortion. To conclude otherwise is to lose sight of the central issue in the debate, which is: What exactly are the unborn? Until you answer that question, you have no business weighing in on the legality of abortion.

To suggest that pro-lifers and pro-choicers should both agree that we should not actually celebrate abortion is to suggest that both groups have answered the question “What exactly are the unborn?” If both sides are supposed to agree that we should not actually celebrate abortion then both sides must have concluded that the unborn are human and that, therefore, abortion kills an innocent human being. After all, why would one be appalled by the celebration of abortion if the objects of abortion were mere clumps of cells?

The wrongfulness of suggesting that pro-lifers and pro-choicers should both be appalled by abortion celebration can be illustrated with the following hypothetical:

Imagine that a small child is pinned to the sidewalk while a grown man slowly and methodically cuts off his arms and legs with the goal of dismembering him and then disposing of his body. One observer tries to stop the attack but is restrained by a police officer not allowing him to render aid. A second observer watches the attack but does not intervene. His non-intervention is due to the fact that he believes the act should be legal. Therefore, no officer is needed to restrain him. He is just a disinterested bystander. Finally, a third observer happens upon the scene and begins to jump up and down and cheer the man who is carving up the helpless child. Suddenly, the second observer is no longer disinterested. Now, he’s angry with the third man who had the audacity to celebrate the act he was willing to let happen.

Does the second observer’s reaction to the third observer make sense to you? Why would the disinterested onlooker become angry at the celebration of the attack unless it was a reflection of the moral principle that it is wrong to kill innocent human beings?

But by his willingness to allow innocent human beings to be killed he loses all moral authority to condemn those who would celebrate the killing. And with it he loses credibility when he is reduced to quibbling over the use of labels.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: abortion; collegesadnunis; foxnews; interview; megynkelly; prolife
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1 posted on 12/10/2014 4:57:17 AM PST by Kaslin
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2 posted on 12/10/2014 4:58:51 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Life. That child is a life. They are pronouncing a death sentence on a person who has had no benefit of trial, has committed no offense worthy of capital punishment, and is then subjected to cruel and unusual punishment.

Let’s rip apart limb from limb the next death row inmate on Texas’ death row, and let’s see what the media has to say.


3 posted on 12/10/2014 5:04:14 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Kaslin

Kelly is fun to watch—but she’s sexually exhibitionust, and just another immoral lawyer.


4 posted on 12/10/2014 5:13:10 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Kaslin

Back to the label issue ...

What exactly is the “choice” in the pro-abort label? I have never heard one of those harridans express support for the choice of letting the child live. So the only choice remaining is to abort. And a single option isn’t much of a choice.

Since that is the case, there are two camps: those who oppose abortion — call them pro-life or anti-abortion — and those who support abortion — call them pro-death, anti-life, or pro-abortion. But let’s stop this rhetorical falsehood that they are advocates for “choice.”


5 posted on 12/10/2014 5:23:32 AM PST by IronJack
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To: IronJack

I think it’s even simpler than that. Make the pro-choice spell out what the choice is. Terminating a pregnancy? What does it mean? By letting them use these soft euphemisms for what it really is, we’re letting them off the hook. But you’re right, there isnt’ much choice, is there?


6 posted on 12/10/2014 5:33:18 AM PST by tenger (It's a good thing we don't get all the government we pay for. -Will Rogers)
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To: Kaslin; Mrs. Don-o

pro-choice IS pro-abortion..

God says life or death...choose...

pro-death or

PRO-LIFE


7 posted on 12/10/2014 5:56:19 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Kaslin

Great post! Thanks for putting it up! We must not give ANY ground in this fight.


8 posted on 12/10/2014 5:57:42 AM PST by Lake Living
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To: Kaslin

I found the hypothetical illustration very powerful and damning; I had never heard it before.

Abortion is insanity.


9 posted on 12/10/2014 5:57:48 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: Kaslin; Mrs. Don-o

This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live Deuteronomy 30:19


10 posted on 12/10/2014 6:01:10 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

Amen.


11 posted on 12/10/2014 6:03:25 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Prov 8:36
But he that sins against me wrongs his own soul: all they that hate me love death.


12 posted on 12/10/2014 6:04:34 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: tenger

“Oh, you mean ‘killing a developing human baby’. OK, just had to be clear on what you were saying. Thanks.”


13 posted on 12/10/2014 6:05:17 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Mamzelle

‘Tend to agree.


14 posted on 12/10/2014 6:09:20 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Tennessee Nana

Amen!


15 posted on 12/10/2014 6:13:29 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Mamzelle

‘but she’s sexually exhibitionus”

Hey man, if you’ve got it, flaunt it, especially since the sweet bird of youth will fly for Megan, too, and too soon. In the meantime, it’s great to look at her and have obscene thoughts.


16 posted on 12/10/2014 6:15:47 AM PST by libstripper (")
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To: IronJack

+1


17 posted on 12/10/2014 6:30:19 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: IronJack
I have never heard one of those harridans express support for the choice of letting the child live.

Recall how they excoriated Sarah Palin for "choosing" not to dismember her youngest in utero.

18 posted on 12/10/2014 6:47:09 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Kaslin

Why is it that when a pregnant woman’s belly starts to expand, they call it a “baby bump” and not a “fetus bump”?


19 posted on 12/10/2014 6:48:12 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: MrB

Yes, put it in their court to admit what they do. Watch them squirm. I actually heard O’Reilly toss a guest off his radio show because she wouldn’t admit that it was terminating a life.


20 posted on 12/10/2014 7:15:22 AM PST by tenger (It's a good thing we don't get all the government we pay for. -Will Rogers)
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