Posted on 12/05/2014 12:39:07 PM PST by Bettyprob
An unarmed Arizona man was shot dead by a Phoenix police officer who mistook a pill bottle for a handgun, police said.
Police have yet to name the 30-year-old white officer, who fired off two shots that killed Rumain Brisbon, a 34-year-old black man, during an altercation Tuesday night during an investigation into a drug deal, police said.
But witness accounts varied on what actually happened, sparking protests in Phoenix Thursday night as the fever pitch from the police killings of unarmed teen Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., and the chokehold death of Eric Garner on Staten Island, boiled over into the streets of the southwestern United States.
The police-involved shooting gives “the impression it’s open season for killing black men,” Ann Hart, the chairwoman of the African American Police Advisory Board for South Phoenix, told KPNX-TV.
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I don't particularly care about the color of the person shot, I do think that we've reached a point where officer involved shootings have far exceeded the realm of public safety.
Please, you're going to claim that refusing a pat down and pulling the arm away is somehow equal to 'attacking an officer'? There is a far cry of a distance between the two cases. I have zero problems with the actions of the officer in Ferguson, who acted with some considerable restraint. I do have a problem when a minor violation escalates when it doesn't have to.
And I'm very sorry if you can not see the difference between those cases.
“”””Brown was not unarmed....””””
I didn’t know Brown was armed. What was he armed with?
Careful where you drive if you do!
Yes the bootlickers feel they have to defend all cops now. Brown attacked a cop and got shot. He may his play and lost.
The other man was chocked to death and left to die unaided by the police and paramedics. Another kid was killed TWO SECONDS after a cop shows up for playing with a BB gun. Good thing I grew up in the 60’s as a kid cause I would have never made it to adulthood with today’s police.
Then there was a female cop killing a kid answering the door with a Nintendo Wii controller in his hand.
And do I mention the daily slaughter of dogs by the police? Seriously when does it end? Its not a black or white thing but a current mentality of the police as them vs citizens, like we are something lesser than them.
...ruk-roh...
Well, as police are instructed to say by their radical feminist friends, the officer person will probably say he/she felt threatened.
“I didn’t know Brown was armed. What was he armed with?”
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Darren Wilson’s service revolver.
Legally whenever two individuals are fighting for possesion of a weapon, BOTH are deemed to be in possesion of that weapon.
Here is a similar situation that didn’t turn out so well...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3232616/posts
Will the prosecutor help the defense attorney to defend the defendant as with other cases, or will the case be kept out of court to begin with?
I do have a problem when a minor violation escalates when it doesn’t have to.
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And who exactly escalated the problem?
Please don’t tell me that your solution is for the cops to back off and walk away whenever someone resists arrest.
I know there are liberal trolls on FR, but I trust you aren’t one of them.
So what would YOU have done? The cops are called as per a citizen complaint. Perp is caught red-handed in violation of the law. He resists arrest.
Yep. And a Muslim editor. These damn libs and their commie, socialist pals plus their muslim hate America friends need to leave the USA.
I think every cop’s pistol efficiency scores should be public. I wonder how many “good guys” these cops “kill” in training.
It seems they’re pretty damn trigger happy. I have a feeling if you give a cop the finger he’s going to shoot you and say he thought you had a gun.
No, he was not. But the chokehold contributed to his death. Three police officers on his back likely didn't help, either.
One more time a death could have been avoided had the black man not resisted arrest. When a cop says stop, stop, and do what they tell you, being polite while you do it. If they are wrong, or violating your rights, sue them later.
I guess we will have another national whining session over another thug who stupidly got himself killed. Burn baby burn, and loot baby loot, until the rabble feels they have been compensated for the loss of one of their own.
No, he was not. But the chokehold contributed to his death. Three police officers on his back likely didn’t help, either.
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Nor did his asthma, his obesity and his heart condition.
A lot of things added up to his death. And as the blame game ends here - Garner is the winner. Its his fault he’s dead.
“Lies. All made up BS by our enemedia.”
Yup, most of it is inaccurate. So are police accounts of far too many incidents.
As for
“Brown was not unarmed”
A pellet gun is hardly a colt 45 or .357 Magnum. In any effective capacity, he WAS unarmed. I’ll give them some credit that it can be mistaken for a gun. But now you get to deal with two facts. That cop shot almost immediately, and that he had already been turned out for emotional instability by another PD. Also, the other cop didn’t even feel the need to draw his weapon. Clearly he didn’t share that same level of concern.
“Garner was not choked to death.”
He was suffocated, and the medical report did rule it homicide. That means it was the cops who killed him.
Yes, the media is dishonest. So are cops, and you’re being a little dishonest in simplifying the situations.
And I find it hard to believe a cop mistook a pill bottle for a gun. That is beyond credible. He’s reaching for an excuse for why he ‘was in fear’. Cops will always dress up their stories for why they killed someone.
Do not make the mistake for one moment in believing cops have any sense of honor in their word. They can CYA with the best of them, and other cops will help them do so.
“Has anyone suggested that these thug criminals stop doing their criminal activities??????? I think the criminal class should all be put on a Devil’s Island for the rest of their pathetic, useless, malignant lives. One strike and you’re OUT! Society needs to stop pandering to and to stop encouraging the thug criminal class.”
Do you understand there is a difference between hard/easy on crime, and hard/easy on cops too quick to kill?
Most of these latest events are not of upstanding citizens. Brown, clear cut. the cigarette guy is hardly a drug dealer. And the other guy didn’t have a gun on him. One in the car, yes, but not on him.
And for those three less than perfect people, cops also killed a kid who was being a kid. I seriously doubt he was trying to threaten cops. Anyone who believes that would believe Obama promises. And that cop’s history is extremely questionable at best.
Then there is that stairwell shooting. No buts about it, that cop murdered an innocent man, and they want to let him get away with it. There are others.
Cops have gotten extremely violent, and are getting worse, not better. Letting the Dorner hunt officers, who shot at 3 innocent people, off the hook was a serious mistake. Cops need reminded that there are limits, especially to the number of mistaken shootings people will accept.
The criminal thugs resisted the police. Follow the police directives...get a lawyer then and sue if you were wronged. If the police “overreacted” they should be called to account. However, if the criminal class would stop being criminals, their run-ins with the cops would be minimal. I despise criminals be they thugs or white collar a-holes. All criminals should suffer...all. Enough with coddling them and giving them “programs” which usually are a grand waste of taxpayer money. Most programs are “make-work” for LIBs.
Oh, yes...I “understand many things. Do you?
The criminal thugs resisted the police. Follow the police directives...get a lawyer then and sue if you were wronged. If the police “overreacted” they should be called to account. However, if the criminal class would stop being criminals, their run-ins with the cops would be minimal. I despise criminals be they thugs or white collar a-holes. All criminals should suffer...all. Enough with coddling them and giving them “programs” which usually are a grand waste of taxpayer money. Most programs are “make-work” for LIBs.
Oh, yes...I “understand” many things. Do you?
So far as I've read, what he resisted was being searched. Probably because he knew whatever money he had on him was going to get confiscated.
I'd START by having the guy come into the parking lot instead of blocking the business that complained. The officer knew the perp, had arrested him on the same charge before, likely knows the guy's probation officer as well. I'd explain to the guy that if he doesn't comply, he'd be facing much more severe charges. He knows what's going to happen, he's going to jail, his money would be confiscated, his cigarettes taken, and likely would sit in jail for at least a day if not longer.
In other words, if he started getting squirley, I'd talk him down. What is the WORST case scenario? He takes off running? Stroll after him, you KNOW where he lives, he's not going to get away in his physical condition. MAYBE an officer has to blow an hour waiting for him to come to his senses - that beats pulling others off of patrol.
How would you prefer your officers to handle the situation?
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