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To: QT3.14

He was killed by a choke hold.

The problem is the police pretending it was not a choke hold when it choked him. If it choked him, by definition it was a choke hold.

This does not bear on innocence or guilt much, IMO, but I wish they would stop denying it was a choke hold.


5 posted on 12/04/2014 3:47:44 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

The choke hold was used... The no one provided aid.

The cops never tried to give him CPR ... And the EMTs?

EMS Workers Called to Help Eric Garner Now Suspended Without Pay
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/07/ems-workers-called-to-help-garner-suspended.html


7 posted on 12/04/2014 3:50:49 PM PST by Bulwinkle (Alec, a.k.a. Daffy Duck)
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To: GeronL

Agree to a point. If he had not resisted arrest, there would have been no choke hold.

People are kind of dumb to think they are going to win in a match with a cop.


31 posted on 12/04/2014 4:37:54 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: GeronL

What you see on the vid is a carotid hold, not a chokehold. They are different. Garner died of a heart attack.

He was held by a partial carotid hold (different from chokehold, which was banned. Carotid holds can cause unconsciousness in 15-20 seconds when applied to both sides of the neck. He was released from the carotid hold (which was only tight on one side) without losing consciousness after about 15 seconds. This hold is used every day across the country. It saves a lot of police and suspects from injury during resists to arrests.

He died of a heart attack, and every little piece of stress happening to him contributed to that. That’s why the carotid hold was listed as a contributing factor to his death.

It’s kind of hard to convict someone of killing a person by way of heart attack. Breitbart was 43 too, and had his while walking down the street. There is no way to take such a possiblity into account in this situation.

There are other officers under charges right now over deaths during arrest resistance, so it does happen. The Grand Juries in these case spent weeks listening to testimony and perusing many pages of evidence. I’m not going to buck them because of a video and a few slanted news articles. The video didn’t look bad to me. A guy in normal health would have been fine after much more punishment than that.


40 posted on 12/04/2014 4:55:55 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Life is good.)
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To: GeronL

I wish people on FR would stop pretending the choke hold didn’t kill him.


46 posted on 12/04/2014 5:01:49 PM PST by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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