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1 posted on 12/03/2014 3:12:30 AM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969

The whole Kitty Genovese meme was invented by the New York Times.

http://nypost.com/2014/02/16/book-reveals-real-story-behind-the-kitty-genovese-murder/

They’ve been that ghastly for longer than that.


2 posted on 12/03/2014 3:42:10 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: servo1969

There is no question there is a problem. Seems to me that any solution to any problem that refuses to account for all the facts will never succeed but points to the actual source of that problem. The facts that are dismissed. Hence when Giuliani points out the reason there are more cops in some places is because there is also more crime he is immediately castigated. Facts like this cannot be allowed anywhere near the table where solutions are discussed. Not even in the room, much less the table. Not even near the building. Some facts have to be relegated to wander in the wilderness where they can never be attached to anything. The knockout game. The Wichita and Knoxville murders. Whittle’s proportions of black on white vs. white on black violence. Etc.


3 posted on 12/03/2014 3:49:42 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: servo1969

> the largest lie was the notion that “communities of color” don’t make problems up. Because in Ferguson, that’s precisely what a community of color did.

Absolutely spot on.


4 posted on 12/03/2014 3:57:29 AM PST by Ray76 (Who gave the stand down order? Benghazi? Ferguson?)
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To: servo1969

There definitely is a problem in “communities of color”. They are living in poverty on the democrat plantation where welfare abounds and children have no father figure to guide them in proper civil behavior. Mothers are having multiple children by different men in order to collect welfare. Children are allowed to roam the street with gangs, thugs, and looters. They only know the street life in order to survive. Yes Obama, there is a problem and you are perpetuating it.


6 posted on 12/03/2014 3:59:05 AM PST by ImNotLying
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To: servo1969
As a friend and shooting companion of several current and retired cops, let me spell this out in plain English:

1. Cops, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, aren't interested in doing anymore work than they have to.

2. If a cop finishes his shift without talking to a single citizen, he is paid the same amount as if he is in three deadly gunfights and two wrestling matches with people bigger than him.

THEREFORE: There is absolutely no profit in fighting or hassling with anybody unless you must for some reason.

(There will be obligatory post to this one saying, ‘oh yea, will some cop just did (insert something) to me for no reason.’ But in actuality, there always is some reason.)

Much of what goes down between cops and minorities actually follows this pattern.

- Groups of minority youths are hanging around disrupting business and causing the business owners to go broke.

- The business owners constantly call the police complaining.

- Eventually, during the pre shift meeting, the police leadership begins berating the patrols with, ‘do something to get these people to stop callings us.’

Now the stage is set.

The cops will initially ignore these request. After a few more pre shift meetings, they will be forced into doing something. Leading to the inevitable scene on CNN of’ “ we were just standing there doing nothing and suddenly these cops come by and start ordering us around like we was dogs.”

I can assure you that the average cop could be perfectly happy avoiding all of this crap entirely. It is nothing but a risk, a pain in the butt, lots of paperwork, and sometimes worse - and there is no more money in it for them. The bullsh@t that is being sprouted on TV that cops willing do this or enjoy doing this is total crap. If these people had jobs and were off the streets, the LAST people that would complain about it would be cops.

7 posted on 12/03/2014 4:14:04 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
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