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The Divorce Surge Is Over, but the Myth Lives On
The New York Times ^ | December 2, 2014 | Claire Cain Miller

Posted on 12/02/2014 3:49:55 PM PST by Clintonfatigued

But here is the thing: It is no longer true that the divorce rate is rising, or that half of all marriages end in divorce. It has not been for some time. Even though social scientists have tried to debunk those myths, somehow the conventional wisdom has held.

Despite hand-wringing about the institution of marriage, marriages in this country are stronger today than they have been in a long time. The divorce rate peaked in the 1970s and early 1980s and has been declining for the three decades since. Photo

About 70 percent of marriages that began in the 1990s reached their 15th anniversary (excluding those in which a spouse died), up from about 65 percent of those that began in the 1970s and 1980s. Those who married in the 2000s are so far divorcing at even lower rates. If current trends continue, nearly two-thirds of marriages will never involve a divorce, according to data from Justin Wolfers, a University of Michigan economist (who also contributes to The Upshot).

There are many reasons for the drop in divorce, including later marriages, birth control and the rise of so-called love marriages. These same forces have helped reduce the divorce rate in parts of Europe, too.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: dating; divorce; marriage
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1 posted on 12/02/2014 3:49:55 PM PST by Clintonfatigued
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; GOPsterinMA; randita; Sun; LdSentinal; ExTexasRedhead; ...

This is surprising. Also, the teen pregnancy has fallen to its lowest rate in some 60 years. Everyone is pleased by this, but no one knows the reason for it.


2 posted on 12/02/2014 3:51:29 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (The War on Drugs is Big Government statism)
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To: Clintonfatigued

bull hockey, you should have seen the full courtroom I was in today


3 posted on 12/02/2014 3:56:54 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Clintonfatigued

“This is surprising. Also, the teen pregnancy has fallen to its lowest rate in some 60 years. Everyone is pleased by this, but no one knows the reason for it.”

Well what about all the faux marriages? Man and woman move in together. Basically common law. Could even have children together. I suggest that part of the lower divorce rate is that when these relationships fail, they are not counted. You can argue they aren’t real marriages. But it sure looks like marriage from a certain point of view.


4 posted on 12/02/2014 3:59:50 PM PST by BJ1
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To: Clintonfatigued

Violent crime rate has also dropped, again, no one really knows why.


5 posted on 12/02/2014 3:59:54 PM PST by KosmicKitty (Liberals claim to want to hear other views, but then are shocked to discover there are other views)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Fewer couples bothering to get married in the first place.


6 posted on 12/02/2014 4:00:16 PM PST by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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To: Clintonfatigued
There are a multitude of reasons for both of those.

So many serial marriers now just cohabitate.
More people now know someone who regrets the divorce they insisted on.
Divorce lowers your financial stability, and people who might have divorced can't afford to live on one income.

More teens have a broke single mom in their family. The rough time is seen first hand.
There are a depressing number of teens already sterile from HPV and such.
Families where both parents no longer have full time work can supervise their teenagers.

7 posted on 12/02/2014 4:01:35 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: BJ1

True.
Simplest explanation is that there are many fewer marriages these days, period. A much larger proportion of children are born out of wedlock.
It stands to reason that the people actually marrying these days have a degree of commitment to marriage greater than the rest, who don’t bother to marry, but in the past might have, and consequently been more prone to divorce.
This also somewhat explains the higher divorce rate in “Red” states. There is a higher rate of marriage hence a higher rate of divorce.


8 posted on 12/02/2014 4:12:26 PM PST by buwaya
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To: Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; GOPsterinMA; randita; Sun; LdSentinal; ExTexasRedhead

“Also, the teen pregnancy has fallen to its lowest rate in some 60 years. Everyone is pleased by this, but no one knows the reason for it.”


What do you mean that no one knows the reason for it? For years we’ve known that it’s mostly due to the huge decrease in the number of *married* teenagers having kids (because very few girls get married before the age of 20 anymore).

Then there’s IUDs (much more prevalent today than a decade ago) cutting down on the pregnancy rate, and abortion taking care of the rest (yes, the abortion rate is down, but mostly among women in their 20s and 30s).

There has been a decrease in teenagers engaging in premarital sex in some population segments, but not in the teen population as a whole.


9 posted on 12/02/2014 4:14:06 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Just wait until gay dirvorce.

One of my gay friends posted that his marriage is all about submission. That brought out quite a chorus.


10 posted on 12/02/2014 4:15:40 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

My three rental units now have renters ranging from early 20’s to early 40’s to mid-70’s. None of them are in traditional marriages. The 70-somethings are living two women with one man, none with the same last name. The two “kids” have a child and are expecting another. The 40’s are living together and have three teenagers. I have no idea whether the teenagers are his, hers or theirs. I simply don’t ask.


11 posted on 12/02/2014 4:33:30 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Clintonfatigued

Virtually everyone in my generation my wife and I know are now divorced. We are one of the few still together (30 years now). Ironically, a lot of the divorces are “grey divorces,” I can’t tell you how many people we know our age have called it quits within the past 5 years. Seems like once the kids are out of the house, that is the end of the marriage.


12 posted on 12/02/2014 4:37:31 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: BJ1

“You can argue they aren’t real marriages. But it sure looks like marriage from a certain point of view.”

In some states if you live with someone for 6 months, have a joint account for utilities or billing address you are considered to be married.


13 posted on 12/02/2014 4:39:01 PM PST by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: KosmicKitty

this one we do know. the sprad of ccw across the states. always drops the crime rates by about 30%.


14 posted on 12/02/2014 4:42:50 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Fai Mao

Which states are those?


15 posted on 12/02/2014 4:45:12 PM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: KosmicKitty

Cameras in public places and DNA evidence


16 posted on 12/02/2014 4:45:31 PM PST by heye2monn (MO)
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To: Clintonfatigued

You mean I’ve waited too late and missed my chance? Fiddlesticks!


17 posted on 12/02/2014 4:47:54 PM PST by BipolarBob (You smell of elderberries, my friend.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Many good insightful reasons offered here by FRiends.
I think the poor economy / work prospects have a lot to do with decreased divorce rates.
I know several unhappy long married couples who dismissed the possibility of divorce, since it would have significantly impacted their standard of living and financial security.
Establishing and maintaining separate households is quite expensive.


18 posted on 12/02/2014 4:48:43 PM PST by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Dang near 80% of my kids friends are from broken homes. Am I expected to believe this is some freak anomoly? When I was growing up only 1 person I knew was from a broken home.


19 posted on 12/02/2014 4:49:53 PM PST by vpintheak (Keep calm and Rain Steel!)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

Texas is one, most of the others are in the West I think.

I knew a guy in Denton at university years ago that moved in with a girl, they lived together for 6 months and she took him to divorce court even though they’d never been officially married. But, because they were living together, both names on the lease and a couple of other technical details the state considered them to be common law married


20 posted on 12/02/2014 5:05:29 PM PST by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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