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Man who killed teen girlfriend he thought was pregnant wanted community service
New York Post ^ | 12/02/2014 | Joshua Saul

Posted on 12/02/2014 7:51:38 AM PST by caligatrux

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To: FamiliarFace

The fact that she allowed her 14 year old to go on dates speaks volumes about the mother.


61 posted on 12/02/2014 9:56:16 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I respect that, Mrs. Don-o.

Recent news has me pretty calloused and harsh on this subject, so I do apologize.


62 posted on 12/02/2014 10:00:21 AM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: originalbuckeye; caligatrux
Well, you are just fantasizing that about the girl. A fourteen year old who thinks she's getting too big for her skinny jeans, or who has a bit of an unpredictable cycle, might think she was pregnant quit reasonably (for a kid that age.) Even those drugstore tests are not 100%.

I suspect she'd know that would not be a good way to develop stronger bonds with her boyfriend. A good look around the neighborhood would probably have shown that's a good way to make him want to vamoose out of your life forever.

My deepest sypmpahy for the girl and her family. As for the BF --- I can't think of anything to say except I wish we had penal colonies on other planets, or at the bottom of the sea.

63 posted on 12/02/2014 10:02:07 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ( 0 Lord blot out our sins, Master pardon our iniquities. 0 Holy One visit and heal our infirmities.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
You think that all liberals want to do is to save people’s lives?

What a wonderful generalization on my attitude to murderers, how special! While liberals care not one wit about the unborn and only a liberal tool would argue otherwise, they have an obscene desire to save and codell the most heinous and disgusting dregs of society after birth! And I have no problem wishing for their worthless souls being sent on to judgement post haste in a manner that scares the crap out of other like minded trash, I hope that is clear enough.

64 posted on 12/02/2014 10:05:44 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were thrown into the sea...”

Luke 17:2


65 posted on 12/02/2014 10:37:42 AM PST by beelzepug (You can't fix a broken washing machine by washing more expensive clothes in it.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Oh, I agree with you there. Neither my sons nor daughter were allowed to go on dates until they were 16, and even then it had to be on double dates at first. The other option was to let me chaperone, which was quickly met with complaints, and DDs were agreed to.


66 posted on 12/02/2014 10:45:02 AM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: beelzepug

Amen. :(


67 posted on 12/02/2014 10:45:57 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ( 0 Lord blot out our sins, Master pardon our iniquities. 0 Holy One visit and heal our infirmities.)
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To: Lurker

Any time!


68 posted on 12/02/2014 11:16:46 AM PST by Tax-chick (R.I.P., Dad, 11/25/14. Thanks for the lawyers, guns, and money.)
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To: originalbuckeye

I agree that she surely thought she was really in a “relationship” with someone who cared about her, while he had one more young girl to **** when he felt like it.

You’re right, the whole thing is rotten, and it’s only getting worse.


69 posted on 12/02/2014 11:18:21 AM PST by Tax-chick (R.I.P., Dad, 11/25/14. Thanks for the lawyers, guns, and money.)
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To: caligatrux

He wants to do community service? How about he stands up in prison and say, “I raped and murdered a 14-year-old child.”? I am certain he will be dead within a week. Now that would be a community service.


70 posted on 12/02/2014 12:03:04 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Have a wonderful day!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Nope. The description in my previous post was from a Black co-worker who was upset because I didn’t think young, pregnant girls should be getting abortions without their parents knowing. I was schooled to the fact that I just didn’t understand the Black community. I have Black, Christian friends who believe the way I do.......young girls, Black OR White, shouldn’t be in any position where they can get pregnant.


71 posted on 12/02/2014 12:15:48 PM PST by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
What kind of parents allow their 14 year old daughter to have a 22 year old boyfriend? With a name like Shaniesha, I can guess.

It bothered me a tad at first when my daughter had an 17.5 year old boy come calling on her, then she told me that I would be fine with it if she had a 13 year old boy friend.

I thought about it and admitted to myself that she was probably right. She's 16.5 years old.

This parent(s) is/are insane for allowing their 14 year old to have a 22 year old boy friend and it cost her her life.

The parent's are responsible for her death, plain and simple.

72 posted on 12/02/2014 12:24:02 PM PST by Graybeard58 (V.33 Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners. Corinthians 10:)
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To: originalbuckeye
Not quite sure what you're saying here. I was responding to the first sentence in your reply #33, which you said this sounds like a 14-year-old who was trying to trap her boyfriend by saying she was pregnant.

I said that was your fantasy, there's no evidence of that.

I agree with you that she shouldn't have had a 22-year-old boyfriend, she should not be risking pregnancy, and she should not be having sex with anybody but --- after she's an adult --- her lawful married husband.

Poor girl. What a horrible way for this beautiful, gifted young teenager to die. May God have mercy.

73 posted on 12/02/2014 12:27:59 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Save us from the fires of hell; lead all souls to heaven, especially those in most need of Thy mercy)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Just trying to illustrate how a 14 year old would think. ‘If I get pregnant, he will stay with me and even if he doesn’t, I will have a child who will love me’. But, as was pointed out to me a few years ago, I don’t understand the Black community. But am familiar with girls who used the ‘I am pregnant’ claim to trap a guy. One, who a relative married because he thought she was pregnant, really wasn’t. And the lie destroyed their relationship......they divorced a few years later. The other, who really was pregnant, didn’t get married.......my friend knew she was sleeping with others and didn’t believe it was his. Some girls/women are very desperate to have someone to hold onto.....and make bad decisions because of it. Maybe ‘trap’ was harsh, but I remember before abortion was legal and the ‘’trap’ was not uncommon with girls/women who had decided they wanted the guy and intentionally got pregnant.


74 posted on 12/02/2014 12:45:56 PM PST by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: originalbuckeye

I’m sure that happens sometimes.


75 posted on 12/02/2014 12:57:40 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Carry on.)
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To: caligatrux

This to me, shows the total innocence or immaturity of a child who got sexually involved with an adult. She thinks he loves her and does not even consider the darkness that adults understand from experience of these things sexual in nature. Adult women know that having sex with a man does not equal love and marriage. A child has no experience to inform them of being sexually used by a deceiver.

This is why we must not permit liberals to lower the age of consent for boys and girls to 14 or lower. Eighteen is low enough. In the old days the age of consent was lower but people had morals. There are no morals nor nobility now. So comparing the old days to today is insanity.


76 posted on 12/02/2014 5:56:01 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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