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Posted on 12/01/2014 6:59:40 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Via the Daily Caller, there’s a caveat here but I’m not sure why. First Jon Karl asks whether Obama would veto a single bill that funds the entire government for 12 months but specifically blocks him from carrying out executive amnesty. Yup, sure would, says Josh Earnest. Okay, says Karl, but what if Republicans pass a bill that funds the entire government for 12 months except for Homeland Security, the agency tasked with implementing amnesty, which would be funded on a short-term basis only until O rescinds his executive order? Earnest is noncommittal about that one. That idea, the so-called “CROmnibus,” is indeed being kicked around by GOP leaders. Which makes sense: Republicans want to play hardball with amnesty funding but without defunding the entire government, lest they be blamed for a new shutdown. The obvious solution is to fund most of it and instead play hardball with just DHS, on the assumption that most of the public won’t care about that. Perfectly logical for the GOP to consider that approach.
Is it logical for Obama to consider it, though? His goal is to pressure the GOP into funding his amnesty; his leverage is public perceptions that if government can’t function because it’s not getting the money it needs, it must be the damned Republicans’ fault. If he agrees to the CROmnibus plan, which would require him to sign a bill funding all of the government except DHS for 12 months, he reduces his leverage. Logically, it seems, if he’s willing to veto a single omnibus funding bill on grounds that it hurts his amnesty, he should be willing to veto two separate bills (one short-term bill for DHS and a longer-term bill for everything else) that seek to achieve the same purpose.
If Earnest is hedging here, and he is, it must be that even Democrats are nervous about the politics of this. Yes, granted, without knowing the details, many more people are reflexively inclined to blame Republicans for any government shutdown than they are to blame Obama. But O refusing to sign a bill that funded most of the government, no strings attached, because of a separate fight over immigration could be a hard sell for lefties. And not just in the short term: If, for once, it’s the left that suffers a backlash from a shutdown, it might make Democrats skittish about playing hardball again over funding in the future. That’s one of the many costs imposed by Obama’s amnesty power grab — not only does it set an alarming new precedent for executive power, but it puts both parties in seldom traveled political territory. Immigration politics are unpredictable even in normal times. What happens when you toss a crisis over separation of powers into the mix?
Is that a threat -— or a promise?
Shut ‘er down. Shove it in his face.
Winner!!!!!
Obama demands to stay in office indefinitely or he’ll shut down the government, GOP caves. (News from late 2016)
Obama will not go quietly
Defund Air Force One, as soon as the Mooch finds out, 0bama will fold like a cheap suit.
The nervous-nelly RINOs will not carry out this plan. Boehner and the establishment RINOs want what Bath House did, so why would they stop his power grab? They might make a perfunctory attempt to stop Bath House, for show only, but they will eventually cave in.
Let him! Then make sure to shout it from every rooftop until we hear it in our sleep that he is the one personally responsible for any shutdown, and see how much good that does him and his party. He doesn’t have as much power as he thinks he has, as long as the people we just elected “man up” and do what they were specifically hired to do - make the govt function and stop the stupidity we’ve been buckling under.
Eh. Obama is still sitting in the Turnip Patch waiting for The Great Turnip to come and give him a magic turnip.
I agree, when a guy leads with his chin, let him.
He will veto anything except the whole budget he wants. And what do you think John Boehner will do?
So? If Obama insists on shutting down the government for the sake of millions of illegal aliens, let that be by his action or inaction. Give the choice, I would rather the government be shut down instead of giving amnesty to millions of illegal aliens.
Great news! The longer the better
The media will blame Republicans, and they will drink it like Kool aid, as usual.
Call his bluff.
That is precisely how the budget should be written and passed -- one department at a time. "Omnibus" budgets are nothing but cover for what everyone in Washington wants, which is unlimited spending with no fingerprints and zero accountability. The GOP knows this, but what they are proving by their actions is that they want exactly what the Democrats want; their only argument is over which party gets to hand out the loot. Damn them all!
“Obama will not go quietly”
Yup. 2 things:
1. He thinks this is Venezuela.
2. He has no intention of leaving office.
Republicans haven’t played any ‘hardball’ since Gingrich in the 90s. Don’t let’s get our hopes up that they’ve suddenly grown some stones.
Hilarious, huh?
They win the election but he kicks them around.
Puh-Thetic
It is the Republican way. For the next two year you will hear “we cant jeopardize the 2016 election” as the most used excuse for cowards act of the day. The Republican couldn’t care less about the country or the people they are only interested in themselves and their pathetic party.
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