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Will President Obama’s Immigration Policy Hurt America’s Unemployed?
Townhall.com ^ | November 27, 2014 | Paul Dykewicz

Posted on 11/27/2014 10:49:20 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin
"Will Obama's illegal alien policy hurt unemployed Americans?" Does the Tin Woodman have a sheet metal ying yang? Tin Woodman photo: The Tin Woodman of OZ Character-tinwoodman.jpg "Hubba hubba!"
21 posted on 11/27/2014 11:37:07 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Kaslin

Questions???

How many blacks are unemployed?

Would Blacks take jobs working on farms, doing the work that
immigrants currently perform?

This also applies to whites who are unemployed.

Think about it.


22 posted on 11/27/2014 11:41:40 AM PST by hapnHal (hapnHal)
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To: RepRivFarm

Yep. The very design of Obamacare favors hiring illegals as employers who elect to not cover certain employees or all will pay a fine on citizens, but; I do not believe so on non citizens. That alone would hurt low skill types such as in shipping and packing departments and other jobs.


23 posted on 11/27/2014 11:44:30 AM PST by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: Lumper20

Here is a link and undocumented workers are exempt from Obamacare.

http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-mandate-exemption-penalty/


24 posted on 11/27/2014 11:54:44 AM PST by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: Kaslin

He’s not only been hurting them since he got elected, he’s been making sure their numbers keep growing.


25 posted on 11/27/2014 11:54:57 AM PST by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: Kaslin

Another 5 million?

Since they are already in the country, it will have a relatively small economic impact compared to the last 30 years of LEGAL immigration.

Since the Reagan Amnesty in 1986, America has accepted 30 million LEGAL immigrants.

Most of them have limited education and limited skills, and they have crushed the wage scale and job opportunities for low skill Americans.

Politically, LEGAL immigration has been a catastrophe for Conservatives.

When those folks and their first generation children become citizens, they vote 80% for the Democrat Party.


26 posted on 11/27/2014 12:29:09 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: hapnHal

Re: “Would Blacks take jobs working on farms, doing the work that immigrants currently perform?”

There are multiple studies on that issue that have been done over the last 20 years.

Depending on which part of the country, native born Americans make up 50%-70% of all low wage farm workers.


27 posted on 11/27/2014 12:34:30 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: KoRn
"I tend to lean libertarian on many issues too, but sometimes you have to take care of your OWN as a country, when it comes to policies like immigration. If you don’t, then why do you even have a ‘country’, or even borders, for that matter?"

Why aren't the other countries taking care of their own? Why don't THEY work on providing employment and "welfare" and bozocare for their own citizens?

Why must America take care of foreigners when her own people are suffering?

The 2014 immigration is very different from the immigration of the 1950's. People back then were scared that they might be sent back to their countries. They also did their best to adapt to their new land.

Seriously, why do we need passports and visas anymore?

28 posted on 11/27/2014 1:03:21 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Kaslin
The addition of nearly 5 million people into the mainstream workforce to seek employment will increase competition for jobs and put downward pressure on wages

They are being brought in to do what Americans won't do; Vote Democrat.

29 posted on 11/27/2014 1:22:36 PM PST by Mike Darancette (AGW-e is the climate "Domino Theory")
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To: Mike Darancette

Looks like the fight for the $15.00 ph wage hike just got shot all to hell!
We now have at least 3mil new workers that will work for $3.00ph!
Unemployed, suck it up and learn to fish!
Employed look for a pay cut coming your way! Thank you Mr 0!
Oh at least Ferguson has some Shovel Ready Jobs!


30 posted on 11/27/2014 1:29:02 PM PST by DocJhn
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To: Mike Darancette
Three Presidents deported millions

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3230041/posts

What did Presidents Hoover , Truman, and Eisenhower have in common?

This is something that should be of great interest for you to pass around. I didn’t know of this until it was pointed out to me.

Back during the great depression, Herbert Hoover ordered the deportation of ALL illegal aliens in order to make jobs available to American citizens that desperately needed work. Harry Truman deported over two million illegal aliens after WWII to create jobs for Returning veterans.

In 1954 Dwight Eisenhower deported 13 million Mexicans. The program was called Operation Wetback. It was done so WWII and Korean War veterans would have a better chance at jobs. It took two years, but they deported them!

Obama’s executive order allows illegal aliens to destroy America’s soul

By Kevin Fobbs

Renew America 11/23/2014

Are we stupid or what? Did our parents, and grandparents and great grandparents just simply get it wrong about our nation and its values. Did the greatest generation, who fought against Nazism and tyranny, sacrifice and die on foreign soil so that our American Dream and its values and principles could simply become a joke? This is what has befallen the nation since Obama took the oath of office as president of the United States. Now he stabs the nation in its heart and soul with an Executive Order that allows millions of illegal alien immigrants to become unofficial-official citizens. According to the New York Times Thursday, November 20th, is the date the president decided to shield illegal immigrants from deportation.

There are hundreds of thousands of liberals, socialists, Democrats, and some Republicans in Name Only (RINO) who support this move by Obama to give into the tyranny of relentless badgering at the nation’s walls of law that protect Americans. This action by the president is a culmination of a series of lies, mistruths, and out and out hammerlock tactics that have nearly strangled the lifeblood of liberty from the U.S. Constitution and the laws which protect Americans.

These illegal aliens have plied their tales of woe and of desperation upon the willing ears of sympathetic mainstream media writers and have evoked images of pain and suffering of years on the run. Can you imagine that: years of running from the law which was supposed to be enforced by the Border Patrol agents and the Obama administration. So a criminal who breaks into your home is now given the keys to the house because it is politically incorrect to deny the law breaker access.

What about justice and following the rules that were and should still be the hallmark of this great nation? Are they now trivialized and even scoffed at by the inhabitant of the White House and backroom mainstream media pundits?

Do not be mistaken, this is not an invitation to warm and friendly illegal immigrants who only want a chance at the American Dream. No, it is an out and out invasion by law breakers who have no respect for the laws that govern the nation, or for its language: ENGLISH!

The rest of the history

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/fobbs/141123

31 posted on 11/27/2014 4:39:21 PM PST by Dqban22 (Hpo<p> http://i.imgur.com/26RbAPx.jpg)
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Constitution amendment needed? We need a Constitution amendment to stop presidents like Obama from abusing the power of executive action. Something like this:

"Majority votes of both the Senate and the House can overturn an executive order."

32 posted on 11/27/2014 10:08:16 PM PST by john mirse
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To: john mirse

we already have a Constitution. If he won’t adhere to it, he damn sure will not follow a Constitutional Amendment. It is the Leglistative Branch of Government that the Constitution authorizes to make law[s]. Not the President [Administrative Branch]. The problem is, no one in Congress will stand up to him. And he knows this.


33 posted on 11/27/2014 10:24:01 PM PST by sport
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To: hapnHal

When the meat-packing plants in the midwest were raided, the following days saw many Americans of all colors apply for the openings. In reponse to questions about Americans not wanting those jobs, they made it clear they were the Americans that did those jobs before they were replaced with illegals. Naturally, there are issues for the employer with such niceties as labor laws, minimum wage/overtime, taxes, Social Security, workers compensation, etc., but Americans have always every job in this country.

The job market would arrive at a wage that would attract Americans to any job; illegals (and many legal immigrants) are simply ways for employers to skirt the market.


34 posted on 11/28/2014 7:10:44 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: sport
The tab for king obama’s amnesty decree? It could be $6 TRILLION

By: DrJohn

http://floppingaces.net/2014/11/23/the-tab-for-king-obamas-amnesty-decree-it-could-be-6-trillion/

The typical unlawful immigrant is 34 years old. After amnesty, this individual will receive government benefits, on average, for 50 years. Restricting access to benefits for the first 13 years after amnesty therefore has only a marginal impact on long-term costs.

If amnesty is enacted, the average adult unlawful immigrant would receive $592,000 more in government benefits over the course of his remaining lifetime than he would pay in taxes.

Over a lifetime, the former unlawful immigrants together would receive $9.4 trillion in government benefits and services and pay $3.1 trillion in taxes. They would generate a lifetime fiscal deficit (total benefits minus total taxes) of $6.3 trillion. (All figures are in constant 2010 dollars.) This should be considered a minimum estimate. It probably understates real future costs because it undercounts the number of unlawful immigrants and dependents who will actually receive amnesty and underestimates significantly the future growth in welfare and medical benefits.

The most recent studies after the fact, concluded that Obama’s unlawful Amnesty will cost over $6 trillion just regarding Social Security and Medicare bankrupting both.

35 posted on 11/28/2014 9:50:27 AM PST by Dqban22 (Hpo<p> http://i.imgur.com/26RbAPx.jpg)
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