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Congress CAN pull financial rug from under Obama's immigration amnesty: Republicans given boost
Daily Mail MailOnline ^ | David Martosco

Posted on 11/26/2014 10:59:27 PM PST by jackal7163

Republican civil war broke out after Obama's Nov. 20 'amnesty' speech over whether the GOP can stop the White House from issuing green cards and work permits Congress's official fact-checkers now say the new Republican majority on Capitol Hill can legally pull the plug At issue is whether immigration authorities can do whatever they want with fees they collect from immigrants, both legal and illegal One congressional aide proposed a hypothetical situation where the Department of the Interior diverted National Parks entrance fees to give 'tap-dance lessons to grizzly bears' 'If we could stop that, we can stop this,' the staffer insisted

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amnesty
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Read the rest at the link. Makes sense. I looked to see if this was posted before but did not see it
1 posted on 11/26/2014 10:59:28 PM PST by jackal7163
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To: jackal7163

They can.

But they’ve already said they won’t.


2 posted on 11/26/2014 11:18:28 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: jackal7163

doesn’t matter. They are a bunch of spineless castrated dolts.


3 posted on 11/26/2014 11:21:31 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Adversity does not build character so much as expose it.)
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To: Tzimisce

My thoughts exactly.

There is no difficulty stopping Obama, if there was a desire to do so.

The GOPe does NOT want to stop Obama. They just want to give the sheeple the impression that they are trying.


4 posted on 11/26/2014 11:21:38 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: jackal7163

Congress has always had the power of the purse, but the challenge is whether they have the will to use it.


5 posted on 11/26/2014 11:21:59 PM PST by Reno89519 (For every illegal with a job, there's an American without one.)
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To: jackal7163

Congress has sole constitutional authority to direct spending should they choose to use it. The law, however, would have to be specifically written to prohibit the president from spending any government funds on his immigration amnesty. Congress traditionally gives the executive branch fairly broad discretion on a range of issues. That’s why the EPA is now regulating CO2 as a pollutant for example.

That said, the president retains veto authority over anything passed by Congress, including changes to existing law. If the Republicans are not willing to confront the president on spending—shutting down the government if necessary—then they surrender their trump card, and if Republicans think the president will give up or cooperate, they are sadly mistaken. Holding up the president’s appointments, while important, isn’t going to stop him.

I don’t think moderates like McCain still understand the president is not going to negotiate or cooperate in good faith. We’ve had six years of hope and change, and I think the president sees this as his last chance to wreak havoc on the country. Just like Obamacare, implement as much as possible, and then dare Republicans to try and roll it back. History is on Obama’s side in that regard, because we have no evidence that moderate Republicans have the will to undo it. They like much of what Obama does!


6 posted on 11/26/2014 11:32:40 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: Tzimisce

They said this before the election, I believe. In addition to impeachment being off the table.

That’s why I was telling folks, before the election, I had no high expecations because rinos and gop-e are running things. Until this changes nothing major will be done. The rinos and gop-e want things to stay the same, they just want to be in charge.


7 posted on 11/27/2014 12:13:46 AM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: jackal7163

Boehner and McConnell have financed ALL of Obamas’s doings.. ON PURPOSE...

The whole federal behemoth COULD BE stripped.. easily..
one by one quite quickly too..

Makes you think “somebody” controls BOTH PARTYS..
Playing “good guy” “bad guy” in a scripted PLAY..

Like a childs birthday party.. with a Pinata and clowns..
And the “voters” are the children...

And the adults are wolves with sheep.. there are no children..
BUT the metaphors stand..

I only “WISH” this was hyperbole... it isn’t..
One day soon...... somebody might get ANGRY!....


8 posted on 11/27/2014 12:39:37 AM PST by hosepipe (" This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole.. ")
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To: jackal7163

Grizzly Bears to the rescue, Hallelujah!


9 posted on 11/27/2014 1:24:29 AM PST by smoothsailing (Mel Kaminsky for President!!!)
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To: CitizenUSA
The law, however, would have to be specifically written to prohibit the president from spending any government funds on his immigration amnesty.

Already on the books.

This little gem from Reagan's 1986 immigration bill:

This posted 11/22/14....Hat Tip to xzins

Immigration Reform Control Act of 1986 "NOTICE TO CONGRESS BEFORE IMPLEMENTING CHANGES" (Required)

Government Printing Office ^ | 1986 | US Congress Posted on 11/22/2014, 4:03:19 PM by xzins

Immigration Reform Control Act of 1986 "NOTICE TO CONGRESS BEFORE IMPLEMENTING CHANGES" (Required) Government Printing Office ^ | 1986 | US Congress

Posted on 11/22/2014, 4:03:19 PM by xzins

"(3) NOTICE TO CONGRESS BEFORE IMPLEMENTING CHANGES.—

"(A) IN GENERAL.—The President may not implement any change under paragraph (1) unless at least—

"(i) 60 days,

"(ii) one year, in the case of a major change described in subparagraph (D)(iii), or

"(iii) two years, in the case of a major change described in clause (i) or (ii) of subparagraph (D), before the date of implementation of the change, the President has prepared and transmitted to the Committee on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives and to the Committee on the Judiciary of the Senate a written report setting forth the proposed change.

If the President proposes to make any change regarding social security account number cards, the President shall transmit to the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives and to the Committee on Finance of the Senate a written report setting forth the proposed change.

The President promptly shall cause to have printed in the Federal Register the substance of any major change (described in subparagraph (D)) proposed and reported to Congress.

"(B) CONTENTS OF REPORT.—In any report under subparagraph (A) the President shall include recommendations for the establishment of civil and criminal sanctions for unauthorized use or disclosure of the information or identifiers contained in such system.

"(C) CONGRESSIONAL REVIEW OF MAJOR CHANGES.—

"(i) HEARINGS AND REVIEW.—The Committees on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives and of the Senate shall cause to have printed in the Congressional Record the substance of any major change described in subparagraph (D), shall hold hearings respecting the feasibility and desirability of implementing such a change, and, within the two year period before implementation, shall report to their respective Houses findings on whether or not such a change should be implemented.

"(ii) CONGRESSIONAL ACTION.—No major change may be implemented unless the Congress specifically provides, in an appropriations or other Act, for funds for implementation of the change.

"(D) MAJOR CHANGES REQUIRING TWO YEARS NOTICE AND CONGRESSIONAL REVIEW.—As used in this paragraph, the term 'major change' means a change which would—

"(i) require an individual to present a new card or other document (designed specifically for use for this purpose) at the time of hiring, recruitment, or referral,

"(ii) provide for a telephone verification system under which an employer, recruiter, or referrer must transmit to a Federal official information concerning the immigration status of prospective employees and the official transmits to the person, and the person must record, a verification code, or

"(iii) require any change in any card used for accounting purposes under the Social Security Act, 42 USC 301 note. including any change requiring that the only social security account number cards which may be presented in order to comply with subsection (bXlXCXi) are such cards as are in a counterfeit-resistant form consistent with the second sentence of section 205(cX2XD) of the Social ecurity Act. 42 use 405

. Discussion here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3230042/posts?page=83

10 posted on 11/27/2014 1:31:01 AM PST by spokeshave (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people,)
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To: spokeshave

As I read all that, I pictured the average government drone sitting in their cubicle playing solitaire or viewing porn on their computer, and the likelihood that they’d tear themselves away from it to actually DO these myriad things required to track aliens, etc.

Fuggittaboutit! Obola and the ‘Rats KNOW their people; their unionized lethargic gubmint teatsuckers, and they KNOW that human nature and the way the whole system is set up is ALL stacked in their favor. And why not? They’ve designed it that way over the past 50 years.


11 posted on 11/27/2014 2:00:22 AM PST by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: jackal7163

Seems to me a few bold and principled leaders in Congress could get the job done. Actual integrity ultimately defeats feigned integrity.

Remember, RINOs are not leaders. They are merely elected officials who have compromised themselves for the sake of securing personal gain. This moral compromise is a severe weakness.

On the other hand, the greatest kind of strength is moral strength. Members of Congress still serious about principle—those who haven’t sold their souls—have an overwhelming advantage over the rest of them.

If you complement a solid moral foundation with the right strategy you can’t lose.


12 posted on 11/27/2014 2:33:57 AM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: smoothsailing

Read my tag......I’m from the Bear Flag Republic... forth generation passing through Colorado and Wisconsin on the way.....California Grizzlies, not as many as before.....but, we few be GRIZZLIES....just ask JR!


13 posted on 11/27/2014 3:54:41 AM PST by Forty-Niner (The barely bare berry bear formerly known as Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: Tzimisce
Thier primary concern is running another loser in 2016 they will go along with the destroyer for the rest of his destructive 2 years. They will fight ted cruz before they fight zippy
14 posted on 11/27/2014 4:55:12 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Empty head empty suit = arrogant little bastard)
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To: ronnie raygun

DO IT, DAMN IT!


15 posted on 11/27/2014 4:58:15 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: CitizenUSA
If the Republicans are not willing to confront the president on spending—shutting down the government if necessary…

The talk about shutting down the government is a canard. Congress, using regular order, can pass separate appropriation bills, funding parts of the government and shutting down only selective parts. One thing that they could do is drastically cut down spending at the White House.

16 posted on 11/27/2014 5:11:04 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: jackal7163

“White House could legally thumb its nose at Congress by self-funding the agency.”

HogWash,

Congress can, with the stroke of a pen Order All revenues to be deposited to the Treasury Dept. No Agency in Government can spend a single Dime without ‘Approval” from CONgress.

The Main reason they won’t do this is because, if they did, they would no longer have a Valid Excuse for Reigning in Big Government as their “Constituents Demand”.


17 posted on 11/27/2014 5:20:57 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: jackal7163

They can defund IRS and EPA to stop the regulations. But the Republican House has been funding Obama for the last two years. Obama isn’t the problem, the Republicans who give him the money are the problem.


18 posted on 11/27/2014 5:29:38 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ DEFUND OBAMA! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$)
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To: jackal7163

Naturalization Act of 1986 says that anything involving employers and aliens and new social security rules MUST return to Congress for hearings of up to 2 years long.

Why is no one mentioning this?


19 posted on 11/27/2014 5:54:37 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Tzimisce
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Team Planning Guide for your "National Day of Reckoning" protest against Obama's Illegal Amnesty - (Internet Link)


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20 posted on 11/27/2014 6:00:07 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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