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Expected California Supreme Court nominee Leondra Kruger a 'mind blower'
Los Angeles Times ^ | November 24, 2014 | By MAURA DOLAN

Posted on 11/24/2014 3:53:35 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: Haddit
Kruger, an Assistant Solicitor General in her mid-30’s, announced - quite matter-of-factly - that religious groups have no special rights of association any greater or different than, say, labor unions. To which Justice Scalia exclaimed: “That’s extraordinary. That is extraordinary. We are talking here about the Free Exercise Clause and about the Establishment Clause, and you say they have no special application? Then there were tough exchanges, evoking near disbelief even from liberal Justice Kagan.

Wow!

21 posted on 11/24/2014 4:47:28 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: originalbuckeye
I’m surprised he didn’t go for Kamala Harris.

Me too. Kinda relieved to tell you the truth. No way this one will be as bad as Harris would be.

22 posted on 11/24/2014 4:53:44 PM PST by atomic_dog
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Well, let's keep the good times rolling, Jerry. Your choice is an Obama lawyer in drag.

According to the Catholic League, she lost a big supreme court case against churches in 2012 while on the Obama team:
http://deaconjohn1987.blogspot.com/2012/01/from-catholic-league-huge-defeat-for.html

Last October, when the Supreme Court heard oral arguments in this case, the Obama administration’s lawyer proved to be such a secular zealot that she stunned even the more liberal members of the high court. Leondra R. Kruger made such an extremist argument that she even got Justice Elena Kagan to agree wholeheartedly with Justice Antonin Scalia.

Had the Obama administration won, the government would have been able to order the Catholic Church to accept women priests.

23 posted on 11/24/2014 4:55:26 PM PST by Veto! ( Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Just another political “affirmative action” appointment, which has diluted the judicial competenece on state and federal courts

Pitiful


24 posted on 11/24/2014 5:15:37 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat (Get ready St. Louis . . . Guns Up . . .LnL . . .STK)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I'm sure she has perfect judicial temperament. [/s] Yet another reason I'm glad I don't live in CA anymore.
25 posted on 11/24/2014 5:27:14 PM PST by rbg81
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To: OKSooner

He receives his orders eagerly from his masters.


26 posted on 11/24/2014 5:38:33 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Black privilege ping.


27 posted on 11/24/2014 5:38:47 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Celebrate the Polls, Ignore the Trolls)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The state is already as FUBAR’d as can be.

She will just be another of many nails in the coffin that’s already under ground. lol

I don’t even recognize it as a state anymore. It’s a landfill.


28 posted on 11/24/2014 6:05:56 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Haddit
“Do you believe, Miss Kruger, that a church has a right that’s grounded in the Free Exercise Clause and-or the Establishment Clause to institutional autonomy with respect to its employees? asked Justice Kagan. Ms. Kruger replied: “We don’t see that line of church autonomy principles in the religion clause jurisprudence as such."

The important phrase here is "as such."

In other words, in the specific application of a religious organization that has been incorporated ("as such"), Kruger is just pointing out what the Justices already know, that as a corporate entity it is no different from any other corporate entity. What the drama was about was that Kruger was arguing that the policy towards religious corporations be separated from the 1st Amendment cover story that has been left in place to hide its corporate status. What Kruger wanted to do was rip off the veil and shove it in America's face, and that shocked even Kagen. No one in that courtroom doubted their authority to dictate corporate policy, however.

If you don't understand the abuse of corporate law, you will never understand the logic of the courts, because it's ALL corporate law now.

29 posted on 11/24/2014 8:10:09 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: skeeter

“Jerry Brown is not a serious man.”

Yes, he is. He’s a very serious hard-left radical. I went to Berkeley when he was Governor and lived in Oakland when he was mayor. I had to interact with his group in the 70’s and 90’s. They are very serious about what they are trying to accomplish and about what they will do to accomplish it. By and large, Jerry and his group are serious enough that they are running the United States of America now.


30 posted on 11/24/2014 8:35:48 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; justiceseeker93; Arthur Wildfire! March; fieldmarshaldj; ...

The Governor can just appoint someone outright, no confirmation needed? I didn’t know that. Terrible idea.


31 posted on 11/24/2014 10:06:32 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: atomic_dog

She’ll run for governor or senate when one of our outstanding senators retires. Newsom for governor. We’re screwed forever.


32 posted on 11/24/2014 10:10:58 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Remember this is California, Stupidity, Ignorance and Moral Bankruptcy are Celebrated out here.


33 posted on 11/25/2014 8:21:02 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: Impy
The Governor can just appoint someone outright, no confirmation needed? I didn’t know that. Terrible idea.

She has to be "confirmed" by a 3-judge panel, and then the voters at the next general election decide whether or not she is "retained."

34 posted on 11/25/2014 2:51:55 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Impy

There is a three person panel, which includes the state AG and two other people whom I can’t recall at the time. They can vote no, but rarely do.


35 posted on 11/29/2014 10:02:39 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (The War on Drugs is Big Government statism)
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To: Impy

Governor Brown can always be counted on to be a ‘mind blower’.


36 posted on 11/29/2014 2:42:48 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The DNC's 2012 Convention actually 'booed' God three times.)
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