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Cleveland police officer shoots 12-year-old boy carrying BB gun
Cleveland.com ^ | 11/23/14 | Corey Schaffer

Posted on 11/23/2014 3:10:20 PM PST by Impala64ssa

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- A rookie Cleveland police officer shot a 12-year-old boy outside a city recreation center late Saturday afternoon after the boy pulled a BB gun from his waistband, police said.

Police were responding to reports of a male with a gun outside Cudell Recreation Center at Detroit Avenue and West Boulevard about 3:30 p.m., Deputy Chief of Field Operations Ed Tomba said.

A rookie officer and a 10-15 year veteran pulled into the parking lot and saw a few people sitting underneath a pavilion next to the center. The rookie officer saw a black gun sitting on the table, and he saw the boy pick up the gun and put it in his waistband, Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association President Jeffrey Follmer said.

The officer got out of the car and told the boy to put his hands up. The boy reached into his waistband, pulled out the gun and the rookie officer fired two shots, Tomba said.

Tomba said the child did not threaten the officer verbally or physically.

At least one of the shots hit the child in the stomach. He was rushed to MetroHealth Medical Center in serious condition. His current condition was not immediately known.

As a handful of community activists shouted obscenities from behind a group of reporters, Tomba said the incident was "very, very tragic."

"We don't come to work everyday and want to use force on anybody," Tomba said. "That's not what our job is. We're part of this community."

The department's use of deadly force investigation team, made up of officers from the homicide and internal affairs units, members of the city's Office of Professional Standards and the city and Cuyahoga County prosecutors office, will determine if the officer was justified in shooting the boy.

Tomba promised the investigation would be open.

"When an officer gives a command, we expect it to be followed," Tomba said. "The way it looks like right now, it wasn't followed, but we're going to continue our investigation."

The shooting comes as the U.S. Department of Justice is investigating the department to determine if it regularly uses excessive force against its citizens.

Northeast Ohio Media Group will continue to update this story.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: banglist; bbgun; cleveland; donutwatch; leo; toygun
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1 posted on 11/23/2014 3:10:20 PM PST by Impala64ssa
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To: Impala64ssa

Oh no! Not Ralphy!


2 posted on 11/23/2014 3:11:01 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: Impala64ssa

Riot now. No? The kid wasn’t a thug I guess.


3 posted on 11/23/2014 3:12:34 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Impala64ssa
"We don't come to work everyday and want to use force on anybody," Tomba said. "That's not what our job is. We're part of this community."

Neighbors like you we do not need.

4 posted on 11/23/2014 3:13:07 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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To: Impala64ssa

Looks like Al and Jesse will have to split their time between Ferguson and Cleveland.


5 posted on 11/23/2014 3:14:51 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Impala64ssa

“....a handful of community activists shouted obscenities from behind a group of reporters, “

Uh Oh!

which “community” explodes first....Cleveland Of Ferguson...?


6 posted on 11/23/2014 3:15:20 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Farmer Dean

I see a spike in employment in the rent a mob industry


7 posted on 11/23/2014 3:17:10 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

>>”We don’t come to work everyday and want to use force on anybody,” Tomba said. “That’s not what our job is. We’re part of this community.”
Neighbors like you we do not need. <<

Are you confused about who the players were and what happened?


8 posted on 11/23/2014 3:18:07 PM PST by freedumb2003 (obozocare: shovel-ready health care)
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To: Impala64ssa

Here’s an idea..if you don’t want to get shot..don’t point a gun at cops..gee, logic, who knew!


9 posted on 11/23/2014 3:18:20 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Impala64ssa

The gun had been modified to remove its orange tip, making it identifiable as a toy.

Those orange tips are a rotten idea. I have never heard of any time when an LEO said, “I was just about to shoot them, and then I saw the orange tip on their gun, so I didn’t.”

Likewise, since it would be easy to put a fake orange tip on a real gun, it does the police no good anyway.

Instead, kids need instruction that they should never, ever draw down on a cop, and if a cop ever orders them to do something, they must. And most important of all, a fake gun can get them really shot.


10 posted on 11/23/2014 3:18:51 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Impala64ssa

Have the “Runnin’ Reverends” run into town yet?


11 posted on 11/23/2014 3:19:03 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Impala64ssa
The boy reached into his waistband, pulled out the gun and the rookie officer fired two shots, Tomba said.

Slowly move your hands away from your body.
12 posted on 11/23/2014 3:19:06 PM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: Impala64ssa
"We don't come to work everyday and want to use force on anybody,

No, that's wrong.

In fact these days most cops want to do EXACTLY THAT, and that's why they signed up to be a cop.

They feel they have a license to hunt humans, and that's what they do.

They see citizens as falling into two types --those they have arrested and those still awaiting arrest, and nothing in-between.

13 posted on 11/23/2014 3:19:20 PM PST by gaijin
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To: MeshugeMikey

No doubt.If you go to the story at the link,have a look at the “BB” gun.A real close copy of a 1911.Would fool about anyone if they only had a split second to decide.


14 posted on 11/23/2014 3:20:02 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
if a cop ever orders them to do something, they must.

Yup. You can argue the finer points of the constitution in a court of law but only if you're alive to do so.
15 posted on 11/23/2014 3:21:42 PM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: Farmer Dean
yup....I would have fired




16 posted on 11/23/2014 3:22:19 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: gaijin

What department do you work for? With inside information like that you must pretty well established.


17 posted on 11/23/2014 3:22:25 PM PST by Yogafist
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To: Impala64ssa; Alaska Wolf; DCBryan1; Slings and Arrows; Doomonyou; napscoordinator; Shimmer1; ...
JBT Ping list

Trainng works!


18 posted on 11/23/2014 3:22:27 PM PST by null and void (The better I know obama, the less I fear a president Biden.)
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To: gaijin

Wrong....


19 posted on 11/23/2014 3:24:21 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Hope the holland tunnel gets the makeover I suggested.)
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To: MeshugeMikey
I thought the manufacturers were supposed to put orange end caps on the barrels.
20 posted on 11/23/2014 3:27:26 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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