Posted on 11/23/2014 3:10:20 PM PST by Impala64ssa
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- A rookie Cleveland police officer shot a 12-year-old boy outside a city recreation center late Saturday afternoon after the boy pulled a BB gun from his waistband, police said.
Police were responding to reports of a male with a gun outside Cudell Recreation Center at Detroit Avenue and West Boulevard about 3:30 p.m., Deputy Chief of Field Operations Ed Tomba said.
A rookie officer and a 10-15 year veteran pulled into the parking lot and saw a few people sitting underneath a pavilion next to the center. The rookie officer saw a black gun sitting on the table, and he saw the boy pick up the gun and put it in his waistband, Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association President Jeffrey Follmer said.
The officer got out of the car and told the boy to put his hands up. The boy reached into his waistband, pulled out the gun and the rookie officer fired two shots, Tomba said.
Tomba said the child did not threaten the officer verbally or physically.
At least one of the shots hit the child in the stomach. He was rushed to MetroHealth Medical Center in serious condition. His current condition was not immediately known.
As a handful of community activists shouted obscenities from behind a group of reporters, Tomba said the incident was "very, very tragic."
"We don't come to work everyday and want to use force on anybody," Tomba said. "That's not what our job is. We're part of this community."
The department's use of deadly force investigation team, made up of officers from the homicide and internal affairs units, members of the city's Office of Professional Standards and the city and Cuyahoga County prosecutors office, will determine if the officer was justified in shooting the boy.
Tomba promised the investigation would be open.
"When an officer gives a command, we expect it to be followed," Tomba said. "The way it looks like right now, it wasn't followed, but we're going to continue our investigation."
The shooting comes as the U.S. Department of Justice is investigating the department to determine if it regularly uses excessive force against its citizens.
Northeast Ohio Media Group will continue to update this story.
The fke orange tip on real guns has been done. cops have recovered real guns with orange tips.
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I said google it. I don’t know what you did, but if you google as I said, right at the top, at the SFPD hiring page, it shows salaries well over $100 grand. Starting pay is $80G for beginners. Lateral hires, or if you’re there over seven years, you get $112G. And there is a $5G signing bonus for an effective $117,000 for experienced hires. Look it up again. I’m not out to prove you wrong, I’m simply stating facts that you tend to ignore! I worked for SF, so I know what’s going on there.
They changed the retirement formula for new hires, downward. I looked it up. It’s now 90 percent at 58 years of age. It used to be higher, but with the increased salaries compared to 15 years ago, it’s still a lot of pension, especially calculated on pay with overtime. Hires from long ago are grandfathered into the old pension formula numbers.
Every company I ever worked for save for my own I was made promises of a higher wage than what they actually paid. The link I provided you shows what SF actually does pay, not what they promise. But you tend to ignore that.
I can also tell you that I have three relatives that work at PDs in San Diego County. They all have a HS diploma and make well over $100,000 when all pay (to include OT) are added in. They've done that since they hit the 5 year point.
What is wrong with you? I provided proof twice. Yet you ignore facts. The link I gave you is the actual SFPD hiring page, not a third party link. Yet you refute what SFPD says!!! Ignorance!
I don't know what your company promised you, but I'm a SF retiree and they made good on all promises. They have to, as it is a legal obligation. Wages are negotiated and is a legally binding obligation on the city. They can change it for new hires, but existing obligations are binding to existing employees. And if they make a promise to new hires who are hired, that is legally binding. If you are not getting paid what you were promised, take it up with your union or hire a lawyer, and don't gripe to me.
As a rule, I generally don't waste my time with such morons. I should have stuck to that rule. Bye..
I checked your link. I live in San Diego and know many who work for the SDPD. I have no doubt some may make that but I know no one who does.
The UT article said that SDPD make the least. Go talk to some cops in Oceanside or Carlsbad.
Three times I've told you the facts, from the official SFPD hiring website. It that is not a fact to you, then everyone reading this thread can see you are way off base. Completely off base. Check the facts by going to the official hiring sites, not a third party link with misreported made up information.
It had to be in his underwear. The pants are always at least six inches lower than the underwear. Be hard to hide a gun in your pants.
The orange tip was removed. It looked like a real gun. Sad.
I was reading about a guy who painted the end of his gun neon pink.
He did it so that, if anybody falsely accused him of drawing his gun on them, all he would have to do is have the officer ask the complainant "what color was the gun?"
In California, that hardly qualifies one as rich, and I guarantee, cops in the most parts of the country start at a third of that. Many cities require police to have a college degree. In small towns, the cops may make $20,000.. maybe.
There are reasons why cops retire at a younger age than most: You don’t want a 50-year-old trying to chase down thugs. The stress of the job takes a toll on people after many years. It is not uncommon for cops to die young of heart disease.
$20k and a get out of jail free card.
What an absurd statement.
Cops that get older migrate to “safe” duties, usually desk jobs, motorcycle duty, etc. A couple guys I knew had it really sweet before retiring, keeping order at the ballpark during Giants games. When I was younger, I played on a department softball team playing against other department teams. In my forties, it was tough running down a ball in the outfield, felt my heart was exploding. Gave up playing ball at fifty, leaving it to younger guys.
Thank goodness he was just killed by cops for holding a toy gun. If he’d been suspended from school for that, it would have been an outrage.
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