Immigration Reform Control Act of 1986 "NOTICE TO CONGRESS BEFORE IMPLEMENTING CHANGES" (Required)

Government Printing Office ^ | 1986 | US Congress

[JRandomFreeper]

Thank you. I thought it was a District Court.

/johnny

[xzins]

So, how does Congress force it to the Supremes?

[scouter]

Laws?! We don’t need no steenkin’ laws!

[Ray76]

Correction: DC District Court

https://jonathanturley.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/house-v-burwell-d-d-c-complaint-filed.pdf

[xzins]

I have trouble trusting anyone in DC. What if we find out he informed Congress 2 years ago of the exact changes he announced the other night?

Besides it meaning that they are all lying cheating scum, it also means that we live in a tyrannical illusion.

[Ray76]

You were right, I was mistaken.

[JRandomFreeper]

I don't see that they do without passing legislation and getting it through the senate and signed by the president.

The States, on the other hand, Constitutionally have a right to go directly to the Supremes.

They can't do it over a speech. It would have to be an unlawful EO, or other unlawful direction to the executive branch by the President.

/johnny

[xzins]

You’re supposed to tell me, not yourself. :>)

[xzins]

I agree that conflicts with states go to the Supremes. Don’t they have original jurisdiction on such things?

[JRandomFreeper]

I was going by memory. I had a 50-50 shot. ;)

/johnny

[JRandomFreeper]

And native nations (or whatever they are called today) if I recall.

/johnny

[xzins]

Now I’ve got to go read it again.

[JRandomFreeper]

Wouldn't hurt a few in congress to join you in your reading.

/johnny

[xzins]

If I read it, think they’ll vote for me?

:>)

[Iron Munro]

Then sue the Obamstard there!

Don't be in a rush.

Congress had to go on break.

Maybe after this break

Or the next break.

Or after Christmas.

Or sometime next year.

Or the year after Obama is out of the White House.

After all - they just filed the Obamacare lawsuit and that became law 4½ years ago.

[JRandomFreeper]

Too conservative.

/johnny

[Windflier]

...begs the question: Does congress actually know the law?

I seriously doubt it.

No one person can know every bit of federal law. There's just too damn much of it. The individual pages would probably span the entire continent by now.

I'm sure most here would agree, that the next few congresses should stop legislating entirely, and do nothing but abolish laws on the books. Three or four sessions of Congress just might reduce the pile to a sane and manageable level.

[xzins]

On track again:

Section. 2. The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority; — to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls; — to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction; — to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party; — to Controversies between two or more States; — between a State and Citizens of another State [Modified by Amendment XI]; — between Citizens of different States; — between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.

In all Cases/ affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.

The underlined appears to be the relevant section.

[Pride in the USA]

ping!

[Know et al]

I agree. I don't think Obama would go to the trouble to inform congress of anything he was going to do. I don't think he even cares about following the rules.

You are correct. We are as close to tyranny as this country has ever been.