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Appropriations panel: Defunding immigration order 'impossible' (GOP surrenders to Obama)
The Hill ^ | 11/20/14 | Rebecca Shabad

Posted on 11/20/2014 8:14:01 AM PST by jimbo123

It would be “impossible to defund President Obama’s executive order through a government spending bill, House Appropriations Committee spokeswoman Jennifer Hing said Thursday.

Congress doesn’t provide funding to U.S. Citizenship and Immgiration Services (CIS), the agency responsible for issuing work permits and green cards. Instead, the agency is funded through fees.

“We cannot, literally cannot, defund that agency in an appropriations bill because we don’t appropriate that agency. That agency is entirely-fee funded,” Hing told reporters.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; executiveamnesty; mexico; rinos; uniparty; vichyrepublicans
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To: yorkiemom

I share your views. Actually, I believe it is too late and I don’t think there will be a civil war. America has been changed.

I think wise souls like yourself will protect youself and your love ones.

As bad as I think it will get, no matter how bad a society becomes, there are always those that figure out how to survive.

My “no spending” proposal won’t even get traction here.

I feel like one of Bundy’s cows. Damn Government won’t even let me graze in peace and I am Moooing in the wind.


61 posted on 11/20/2014 9:30:47 AM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: jimbo123

Is law enforcement going to enforce the law or answer to un-Constitutional decrees like good knee padding lemmings from their Master Barry?


62 posted on 11/20/2014 9:42:46 AM PST by TheBigJ
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To: mrsmith
Anyway the important issue is to NOT pass a long-term spending bill. Pay the bills only until January.
TOO LATE!! The GOP "leadership" (spit) has already thrown in the towel and are going to allow the Demoncraps to set a long-term CR through September 30, 2015...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3228665/posts

63 posted on 11/20/2014 9:45:03 AM PST by jaydee770
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To: Gadsden1st

“I feel like one of Bundy’s cows. Damn Government won’t even let me graze in peace and I am Moooing in the wind.”

;(

Don’t give up hope. SOMETHING has to wake the sheeple up. There are enough of us still alive that went through school when they actually taught us how to think AND how this country was founded.

Either that or when the EBT cards don’t work, the riots will start.


64 posted on 11/20/2014 9:45:44 AM PST by yorkiemom
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To: MNDude

Exactly. That’s why I’m laughing at the huffing and puffing of the GOPe.

Obama takes the heat and the GOPe corporatists get exactly what they want.


65 posted on 11/20/2014 9:55:05 AM PST by headstamp 2
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To: Boogieman
The money they raise from fees doesn’t get deposited into the treasury, it goes into the agency’s internal budget. So, they don’t have to draw anything from the treasury in order to spend it.

Every dime that the government has is in the Treasury irregardless of what particular account in which it is held.

66 posted on 11/20/2014 9:58:43 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: headstamp 2

Obama takes the heat and the GOPe corporatists get exactly what they want.


Obama takes the heat for the GOPe AND Dims...no one has to have this atrocity on their voting record. The will of the people is completely circumvented.

Treasonous.


67 posted on 11/20/2014 10:09:35 AM PST by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: jimbo123

And they say that the next election will fix the mess we are in.... Well people the fix is in....

Elections will NOT FIX nuttin.


68 posted on 11/20/2014 10:22:31 AM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: jimbo123

Premature surrender, as predicted of the GOPe RINO caucus.


69 posted on 11/20/2014 10:25:46 AM PST by Uncle Miltie ('The HERO of the (0bamacare) story is Mitt Romney' - "Stupid" Jonathan Gruber)
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To: Timber Rattler; All

It Is Time For The Congress To Re-establish it’s constitutional authority

While the talkies, talk radio show hosts, need to remind “US” of this.. Members of the House and Senate also seem to forget. While those selected to head various federal departments of government are recomended by the incomming POTUS (president of the United States).

Such candidates are constitutionaly required to be approved by the Senate in a procedure known as advise and consent.. Those appointed then are also sworn to uphold, protect,serve, and support the constitution. Not the executive branch. .

Such appointees can and should refuse any executive order.Or allow the executive branch create a political appointee who over rides their congressional authority. Particularly. If and when that executive order is designed to ignore existing congressional legislation which defines a departments jurisdiction or specific purpose protecting the interests of the country . Which places the country in danger, or minimizes the value of citizenship, or places its citizens in clear and eminent danger.

Therefore they and their respective departments must be held answerable to both houses of congress which funds these operations. And, should be held in contempt, censure, and impeachment and the funds witheld if refused to comply.


70 posted on 11/20/2014 10:27:30 AM PST by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: jimbo123

“That agency is entirely-fee funded,” Hing told reporters.”

So...pass a law prohibiting them from collecting fees, or from spending any money collected in fees on supporting illegals. Pass a law forbidding anyone given executive order amnesty from ever collecting SS.

They are getting tax money somewhere and somehow. If need be, eliminate it as a government agency. Pass an order requiring the head of HS to block enforcement.

Obama will veto, but there are other ways of making him suffer. Meanwhile, put it before the public eye: who wants cheap labor to replace American workers?


71 posted on 11/20/2014 10:29:36 AM PST by Mr Rogers
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To: Petrosius

Well, I suppose if you define “the Treasury” that way, you could say that.


72 posted on 11/20/2014 10:53:38 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Uncle Miltie

.....and the media will ignore all 22 statements.


73 posted on 11/20/2014 11:27:18 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: RWGinger

Congress can always write some legalese into existing laws that they pass with 60 votes and limits funds for a specific group.


74 posted on 11/20/2014 11:40:34 AM PST by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: jimbo123

Congress should have been ahead of the game and there are ways to stop Obama...http://northamericanlawcenter.org/republicans-can-stop-executive-order-amnesty-dead/#.VG5DwovF89a


75 posted on 11/20/2014 11:41:02 AM PST by katiedidit1
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To: Lumper20

Lump?
But if the funds for the CIS do NOT come from Congress( and so far we only have that committeepersons word ) Congress can not defund them.So CIS will be able to issue green cards to all the millions of illegals.


76 posted on 11/20/2014 11:45:48 AM PST by RWGinger
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To: Gadsden1st

I’ve been doing this for some time. It’s a form of Going Galt. Minimize one’s contribution to the economy and government by minimizing both ones input and output. Produce litte, consume little. Pay minimal taxes.

And if you like, do like the moocher class and take as much as possible from the government. As you point out, if enough people would do this, especially the producer-class, the system would collapse.


77 posted on 11/20/2014 12:06:36 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: cotton1706; DugwayDuke
Nonsense! Defund the administrators. If they don’t show up to shuffle the paperwork, receive the payments, apply the payments, pay the bills, etc., then things will be at a standstill.

Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) winced as he listened to comments from Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) in reaction to President Obama’s plans to protect undocumented immigrants from deportation.

“Unfortunate, unfair, unnecessary, unwise,” Graham said.

“Republican leaders hope to contain outrage in the ranks over Obama immigration moves"

Seems we haven't actually identified the enemy, which makes battle plans less effective.

78 posted on 11/20/2014 12:06:45 PM PST by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: jimbo123

Jennifer Hing knows
what she is talking about
You Tea Baggers shut up!

Its all about sex, sex, sex anyway.

79 posted on 11/20/2014 12:11:26 PM PST by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: GeronL
did anything think the GOPe would do something besides try to sound like they were a bit upset?

Well they are trying to derail Sessions. The rest of the Conservatives will be dealt with as well.

We have an Imperial Presidency and a corrupt Congress leading a lazy uninformed populace what did we expect.

1Sa 8:5 And said unto him, Behold, thou art old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways: now make us a king to judge us like all the nations.

1Sa 8:6 But the thing displeased Samuel, when they said, Give us a king to judge us. And Samuel prayed unto the LORD.

1Sa 8:7 And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.

1Sa 8:18 And ye shall cry out in that day because of your king which ye shall have chosen you; and the LORD will not hear you in that day.

80 posted on 11/20/2014 12:19:36 PM PST by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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