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Racial divide in U.S. arrest rates is 'staggering,' study finds [media bias barf alert]
yahoo.com ^ | November 19, 2014

Posted on 11/19/2014 10:48:04 PM PST by grundle

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To: ComputerGuy

IIRC, the DOJ statistics (at least up to the years they stopped publishing the racial breakdowns) even showed a year or two with literally no white-on-black rapes reported.


41 posted on 11/20/2014 3:59:20 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: grundle

So is the percentage of fatherless children. Coincidence? I don’t think so.


42 posted on 11/20/2014 4:04:14 AM PST by mikeus_maximus
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To: Rome2000

There would hardly be a “black middle class” if not for the government employing so many blacks.


43 posted on 11/20/2014 4:12:41 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: grundle

Several years ago, my neighbor’s two high school boys, both on the basketball team, went almost everywhere with the three black team members. I’d met them all and they seemed like nice kids. One of the blacks had a nice car and the five of them rode almost everywhere together. The school they attended was the highest rated in the county. On a day when the two white boys were not along the three blacks stopped to collect a drug debt from another black. The debtor told them to f*ckoff. The team captain pulled his gun (even my neighbor’s boys carried them) and shot the debtor dead. All three of them went to prison as that’s the law in Florida. When an interviewer talked to the three black boys they all said variations of, “He dissed him, man. (Name of Captain, which I can’t recall) had to kill him.” Later I talked to my neighbor’s kids and they said the same thing. Though, these boys seemed to understand that it was an idiot view and were just trying to explain the black viewpoint. I moved at that point so I don’t know how the neighbor’s boys turned out.

This black machismo of “He dissed me and I had to kill him” is probably behind the black arrest rate.

A note on the guns. Around the turn of the century there was a round called a .38 short. It was black powder. It doesn’t exist today. But you can drop a 9 mm round into the pistol and it works just fine. But the guns were produced from pot metal and may or may not explode. A local dealer sold them for $20 each out of a 55 gallon drum so that people could take them to the $50 “gun buyback” programs and run the program out of money. The high school was flooded with these guns. It was a fad to carry one. When my neighbor showed me the guns he’d taken from his kids I went over and talked to the kids to be certain they knew how dangerous they were.


44 posted on 11/20/2014 4:13:56 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: cherry
Ferguson is majority black

Stop arresting black criminals and Ferguson will quickly become 100% black. Functional law enforcement is a requirement for white people to live among black people.

45 posted on 11/20/2014 4:14:30 AM PST by Reeses
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To: grundle

Stop teaching black kids that it’s cool to be a Gangsta’, evade responsibility and break rules and laws, and that it’s not cool to act white.

Then the disparity will gradually dissipate.


46 posted on 11/20/2014 4:15:23 AM PST by Iron Munro (DHS has the same headcount as the US Marine Corps with twice the budget)
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To: econjack

Years ago black leaders like Malcom X pushed the idea that blacks had to help themselves; nobody else was going to lift them out of their poverty. Unfortunately, those leaders and that message are dead; anyone advocating cutting taxes is painted as racist because it has become so ingrained that blacks need others to provide their food, clothing, and shelter. Voting patterns indicate many have embraced their role as urban livestock.


47 posted on 11/20/2014 4:15:38 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action isa economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: F15Eagle
Yahoo! “publishes” non-stop leftist drivel and lies.

I switched from yahoo to google to Bing.

Bing is far from conservative but I haven't found their search engine hiding conservative stories or web sites like google does.

48 posted on 11/20/2014 4:29:40 AM PST by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: grundle

the arrest rate is indicative of the fact that the urban black subculture is essentially criminal in nature


49 posted on 11/20/2014 4:31:58 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: grundle

Here’s some legal advice for the ferrel population, courtesy of Jim Carrey in “Liar, Liar”: STOP BREAKING THE LAW, A%%HOLES!


50 posted on 11/20/2014 4:35:27 AM PST by Common Sense 101
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To: grundle

The real issue is crime rate rather than arrest rate.


51 posted on 11/20/2014 4:37:04 AM PST by all the best
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To: grundle
Could this be a hint as to why the arrest rate difference?

Because everything is racial for the Obama-Holder demagogues, the race-grievance industry, and most MSM employees I sure would appreciate an explanation from them; to wit,

I have these data from the FBI's new National Incident-Based Reporting System and there seems to be a huge surplus of black offenders vs. black victims.

And on the white side there is a huge surplus of white victims vs. white offenders.

Could it be that contrary to the efforts of the Obama-Holder demagogues, the race-grievance industry, and most MSM employees screams of RACISM! that Black Americans really are arrested for a reason?

And is there an explanation for the surplus of black offenders?

The last four columns of the last table are MY ADDITIONS they are not part of the FBI NIBRS data. The last four columns of the last table below are MY ADDITIONS.

.. and I wonder about that dearth of white offenders and the surplus of white victims compared to the numbers of white offenders. What's that about? Who's picking up the slack?

I am not saying that this proves anything one way or the other. Just curious it seems to me. Seriously.

Victims' Race
by Offense Category, 2012

Offense Category "Total Victims1" White Black "American Indian or
Alaskan Native"
"Asian/Pacific
Islander"
"Unknown Race"
Total 4,332,695 3,156,006 901,159 22,326 50,615 202,589
Crimes Against Persons 1,327,863 893,984 374,220 11,133 10,072 38,454
Assault Offenses 1,228,498 820,215 354,624 10,126 9,274 34,259
Homicide Offenses 3,943 1,885 1,940 22 34 62
Kidnapping/Abduction 15,797 10,946 4,059 162 181 449
Sex Offenses, Forcible 73,132 55,876 12,569 743 546 3,398
Sex Offenses, Nonforcible 6,493 5,062 1,028 80 37 286
Crimes Against Property 3,004,832 2,262,022 526,939 11,193 40,543 164,135
Arson 12,300 7,816 2,706 48 109 1,621
Bribery 250 197 35 3 2 13
Burglary/Breaking & Entering 538,561 402,371 106,177 1,776 7,124 21,113
Counterfeiting/Forgery 39,203 30,973 4,335 166 509 3,220
Destruction/Damage/Vandalism 660,184 485,374 129,772 2,791 8,657 33,590
Embezzlement 3,654 3,053 364 11 38 188
Extortion/Blackmail 1,207 902 221 3 28 53
Fraud Offenses 216,429 163,449 34,812 530 3,010 14,628
Larceny/Theft Offenses 1,262,354 992,072 177,229 4,752 16,507 71,794
Motor Vehicle Theft 159,295 106,661 39,588 621 2,057 10,368
Robbery 81,554 47,647 29,138 396 2,155 2,218
Stolen Property Offenses 29,841 21,507 2,562 96 347 5,329
1 This table includes only individual (person) victims and does not include business, financial institution, government, religious organization, or other victims. Victims are counted once for each offense type to which they are connected.

Offenders' Race
by Offense Category, 2012

Offense Category "Total Victims1" White Black "American
Indian or
Alaskan
Native"
"Asian/
Pacific
Islander"
"Unknown
Race"
Number of
white victims
vs.
number of
white offenders
Number of
black victims
vs.
number of
black offenders
Total 4,556,183 2,574,105 1,261,337 39,967 29,895 650,879
Crimes Against Persons 1,297,153 768,147 452,877 12,905 9,718 53,506 125,837 -78,657 1.16 0.83
Assault Offenses 1,199,433 706,529 425,744 11,963 8,899 46,298 113,686 -71,120 1.16 0.83
Homicide Offenses 4,465 1,798 2,232 29 27 379 87 -292 1.05 0.87
Kidnapping/Abduction 16,328 9,432 5,890 178 150 678 1,514 -1,831 1.16 0.69
Sex Offenses, Forcible 70,441 45,694 17,745 650 593 5,759 10,182 -5,176 1.22 0.71
Sex Offenses, Nonforcible 6,486 4,694 1,266 85 49 392 368 -238 1.08 0.81
Crimes Against Property 2,361,079 1,180,180 572,430 18,083 13,504 576,882 1,081,842 -45,491 1.92 0.92
Arson 10,827 5,796 2,124 71 45 2,791 2,020 582 1.35 1.27
Bribery 412 298 94 5 4 11 -101 -59 0.66 0.37
Burglary/Breaking & Entering 316,477 135,148 67,924 1,615 1,188 110,602 267,223 38,253 2.98 1.56
Counterfeiting/Forgery 68,197 41,299 16,845 317 488 9,248 -10,326 -12,510 0.75 0.26
Destruction/Damage/Vandalism 434,796 210,310 97,822 3,270 2,313 121,081 275,064 31,950 2.31 1.33
Embezzlement 18,520 12,548 4,881 56 136 899 -9,495 -4,517 0.24 0.07
Extortion/Blackmail 1,180 657 316 2 22 183 245 -95 1.37 0.70
Fraud Offenses 173,359 92,094 37,757 903 1,178 41,427 71,355 -2,945 1.77 0.92
Larceny/Theft Offenses 1,100,592 587,178 244,545 10,043 6,837 251,989 404,894 -67,316 1.69 0.72
Motor Vehicle Theft 85,909 37,404 18,213 858 450 28,984 69,257 21,375 2.85 2.17
Robbery 105,005 26,173 70,039 483 468 7,842 21,474 -40,901 1.82 0.42
Stolen Property Offenses 45,805 31,275 11,870 460 375 1,825 -9,768 -9,308 0.69 0.22
Crimes Against Society 897,951 625,778 236,030 8,979 6,673 20,491 -625,778 -236,030
Drug/Narcotic Offenses 790,828 566,888 194,224 8,351 5,453 15,912 -566,888 -194,224
Gambling Offenses 2,320 873 1,230 11 113 93 -873 -1,230
Pornography/Obscene Material 5,962 4,691 659 24 36 552 -4,691 -659
Prostitution Offenses 12,182 7,248 4,199 52 373 310 -7,248 -4,199
Weapon Law Violations 86,659 46,078 35,718 541 698 3,624 -46,078 -35,718
1Does not include 1,741,162 incidents with Unknown Offenders. Offenders are counted once for each offense type to which they are connected.
52 posted on 11/20/2014 4:42:59 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: All
Maybe the MSM employees can explain how a segment of the population outnumbered at lease 6-to-1 can keep pace with the majority vis-a-vis homicides -- and even beat us in the arena of interracial homicide!

Expanded Homicide Data
Table 6 data for multiple years.

FBI Homicides Statistics

Year of
Stats
Race of
Victims

Total
White
Offenders
Black
Offenders
Unknown
& other
2012
White
3,128
2,614
431
83
Black
2,648
193
2,412
43
2011
White
3,172
2,630
448
94
Black
2,695
193
2,447
55
2010
White
3,327
2,777
447
103
Black
2,720
218
2,459
43
2009
White
3,518
2,963
454
101
Black
2,867
209
2,604
54
2008
White
3,643
3,036
504
103
Black
3,024
230
2,722
72
2007
White
3,587
2,918
566
103
Black
3,221
245
2,905
71
2006
White
3,709
3,026
573
110
Black
3,303
208
3,034
61
2005
White
3,785
3,150
516
119
Black
3,289
230
2,984
75
2004
White
3,727
3,123
522
85
Black
3,067
228
2,784
55
1995
White
4,954
4,124
699
131
Black
4,764
281
4,422
61

I did not find data for the years 1996 through 2003

www.fbi.gov About Us CJIS UCR Crime in the U.S. Here's the links to most of the FBI tables I referenced above.

Here's 2012

Here's 2011

Here's 2010

Here's 2009

Here's 2008

Here's 2007

Here's 2006

Here's 2005

Maybe the MSM employees can look at facts that whites are more likely to die being arrested than Black Americans. I am sure that Ferguson is on the MSM employee's mind.

The FBI and other sources of homicide by law enforcement figures below include the majority of all police departments.

The point of this reply is to point out that whites are the most likely to die while being arrested.

The Obama-Holder U.S. Dept. Just Us and the race-grievance industry will of course exploit all shootings to the max vis-a-vis race more than any concern for the poor victim.

The ARD data show that whites are more likely to die while being arrested and IMO there is no doubt that some of those deaths were the intention of the police.

But the main point is I bet that policemen don't care about race compared to protecting themselves from being killed or maimed.

And what about Ms Carey the unarmed, young black woman chased, surrounded and gunned down by federal agents in D.C.? Where's the Obama-Holder U.S. Dept. Just Us and the race-grievance industry caring about her and her baby?

Arrest-Related Deaths, 2003-2009 - Statistical Tables

"From 2003 through 2009, a total of 4,813 deaths were reported to the Bureau of Justice Statistics’ (BJS) Arrest-Related Deaths (ARD) program."

Of these, about 6 in 10 deaths (2,931) were classified as homicide by law enforcement personnel, and 4 in 10 (1,882) were attributed to other manners of death.

Table 1 Number of reported arrest-related deaths, by manner of death, 2003-2009

Manner of death 2003-2009 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009
All manners 4,813 627 673 689 721 745 629 729
Homicide —by law enforcement 2,931 376 375 377 447 455 404 497
by other persons 27 3 4 4 2 7 3 4
Suicide 541 60 84 82 67 78 76 94
Intoxication 525 83 83 90 76 89 54 50
Accidental injury 272 53 41 47 39 35 28 29
Natural causes 244 26 46 32 34 42 33 31
Unknown 273 26 40 57 56 39 31 24
Note: Due to variation in reporting, caution should be used in comparing counts from year to year. See Methodology for information on missing data by state for each year. Counts may differ from previous publication due to additional information.

Table 5 Number of reported arrest-related deaths, by manner of death and demographic characteristics, 2003-2009

Demographic
characteristics
All manners Homicide Suicide Intoxication Accident Natural causes Unknown
Total 4,813 2,958 541 525 272 244 273
Sex
Male 4,594 2,851 517 490 259 218 259
Female 218 107 24 35 13 26 13
Unknown 1 0 0 0 0 0 1
Race/Hispanic origin
White, non-Hispanic 2,026 1,233 327 178 95 110 83
Black, non-Hispanic 1,529 937 80 217 111 85 99
Hispanic 949 599 110 109 55 29 47
Other* 150 107 12 17 4 4 6
Unknown 159 82 12 4 7 16 38
Age
17 or younger 127 99 6 5 13 0 4
18-24 909 685 80 53 54 10 27
25-34 1,391 893 140 177 65 41 75
35-44 1,238 658 159 190 78 66 87
45-54 752 390 105 84 45 75 53
55 or older 317 188 44 11 12 52 10
Unknown 79 45 7 5 5 0 17
*Includes American Indians, Alaska Natives, Asians, Native Hawaiians, other Pacific Islanders, and persons of two or more races.

To me this shows that it is not a racial thing. It happens to all races. These figures however do not show those thought "murdered" by police. I have not yet located data for recent years. Why can't I find data for recent years? I do not know.. maybe the Dept of Just Us and Race-Grievance Industry don't want it known that whites are the most likely to die being arrested.

53 posted on 11/20/2014 4:55:48 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: grundle

blacks commit more crimes. Therefore they get arrested more. No big deal


54 posted on 11/20/2014 5:03:31 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: RocketMan1

It is called “disparate impact.” IF something (like laws against theft, violence, or laws enabling self defense) affects blacks more than other races then it is automatically deemed “racist.”
This is part of the communist control of the debate - the assumption that unequal results have to be the result of racism.


55 posted on 11/20/2014 5:29:15 AM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Common Sense 101

“... at least 1,581 police departments arrest black people at a higher rate than Ferguson, where blacks are arrested nearly three times more than people of other races.”...

Did the writer ever stop to consider these “arrests” are warranted because blacks are three time more than other races, to have committed crimes?


56 posted on 11/20/2014 5:33:48 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: grundle

When 80% of your city is black, then you will see a higher black arrest rate. Detroit, Chicago, Memphis, NYC, just name any large city with a high black population and you will have a high black arrest rate. Ditto goes for hispanic areas. Especially if a Dem controls those cities. Most of it is black on black crime, next target are the illegals as most don’t report a crime.

I’ve lived to close to or in Memphis for nearly 30 yrs you can’t go a night with out some black committing a crime, or killing another black, not to know how the crime goes there. All our news comes out of Memphis, and the first 15 mins is usually crime report time. Usual perp is black.

Where small bergs are more racially balanced the arrest rate is about the same for all races.

Recidivism
http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=17

Older study, but invaluable info. Probation and Parole: https://www.ncjrs.gov/txtfiles/ppvsp91.txt
Keep in mind the sampling was just 45%, they originally committed 25,900 crimes, when placed on early release under ‘community’ supervision for parole and probation they then committed another 74,400 new crimes. That folks adds up to 100,300 old and new crimes, and many times more than that in victims. As there are multiple people affected when a child/woman is raped or a person murdered.

In Tennessee blacks serve 6 months less time than their white counterparts. If you are talking about the 11 month 29 day small felony Penal Farm in Memphis they serve up to 90 days, just long enough to get a health need taken care of or ‘winter over’ Recidivism is 85%. Most have 30-60 felonies each on their records. And tie up multiple court rooms, judges and AG/Public Defenders each year until they are sentenced and incarcerated, they continue to commit those break and enter jobs, rob small stores, purse snatch, etc. They may or may not get caught doing while out on bail.


57 posted on 11/20/2014 5:42:39 AM PST by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: Ken H

It is a fact that blacks are arrested at a much higher rate. Therefore it follows that the police are targeting blacks. Whites are obviously controlling this situation. Asians are arrested at a much lower rate than whites. Therefore the police are targeting blacks and whites. Who are these mysterious Asians who are controlling our police departments? Something must be done about that.


58 posted on 11/20/2014 5:49:43 AM PST by Vehmgericht
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To: RocketMan1

No it does not, as dems usually black dems run these big cities and are crooks themselves. Memphis is a hot bed of crooked Dem politicians at all levels.

Any sane white person has fled the city unless they live in a gated community, or now mandated to live there if they work for the government. Now they are fleeing the county into Mississippi or into the surrounding counties where crime is low. And property taxes to boot. Even your car and house ins drops the minute you cross Shelby Co line does not matter if you go to MS or into the surrounding counties. Car takes the biggest ins drop.

We did last year. I finally ‘nagged’ enough, that he was to old at 72 to be on the roof of a 2 story house, and I was scared to death of the crime. Our car was broken into, we had a man killed a few blocks away. Several cars were broken into at the same time by the same gang on a single night. Crime is very MOBILE.


59 posted on 11/20/2014 5:54:06 AM PST by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: grundle

When there is no father in the house, the odds of a kid being arrested/delinquent/in jail are three times higher than one raised with Dad.
The illegitimacy rate for blacks is around 80%, two and a half times higher than for whites.
So the arrest rate for black kids on average is 2-3 times that of whites.
If they married the baby daddies, they’d have lower crime rates.
It is demographics, not race.


60 posted on 11/20/2014 6:54:04 AM PST by tbw2
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