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Team Hillary thinks she can win 386 electoral votes in 2016
Hotair ^ | 11/17/2014 | NOAH ROTHMAN

Posted on 11/17/2014 7:56:35 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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Stewart’s bullish assessment of Clinton’s abilities, pronounced confidently in a leftwing publication, are perhaps less of an attempt at political analysis and more of an appeal to calm the rising concerns among liberals that Clinton is not up to the task of retaining the White House for Democrats.

Oh, that is true.

Nevertheless, any Demon Rat--Hitlery, Michelle Obama, Fauxachontas, the socialist NYC mayor, Dennis Kook-cinich, ANY DemonRat starts with a huuuuuge advantage.:

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Gallup's daily polling from last year showed these states as the most "Democrat" of all 50...how many electoral votes does ANY DemonRAT start with, then--meaning they don't have to campaign in these states because the voting population is so dense, so uneducated, so addicted to government that the DemonRat is assured of winning the state?

You also ought to throw in a couple of other states: Wisconsin and Pennsylvania....both of those states have, sadly, voted for the DemonRat candidates in EACH OF THE LAST SIX PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS....so, sadly, here is what the DemonRat starts with:

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247 votes...sucks, I know. But we cannot avoid reality. Has Obama done so much damage to the DemonRat party that some of that advantage is mitigated? Maybe. But not much.

Now, let's look at what the Republican starts with. Here are Gallup's most Republican states in 2013:

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So, let's add those states with the same criteria as we applied to the DemonRats. States SO solid for Republicans that campaigning shouldn't be done there--you add...Texas and Mississippi. That is it. Believe it or not, every other state has voted Democrat at least once since 1992. So here is the "solid" Republican map, as I see it:

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105 votes. Paltry.

In other words, the Demonrat starts out needing ONLY 23 electoral votes to find...whereas the Republican has to find 165.

Resources are limited--and the Demon Rat can put their monies and operations in many places.

Ohio, Florida, Virginia, Missouri, are all deeply competitive but they are almost MUST wins for the Republican--the 'rat can afford to lose them because it can afford to cobble together 23 votes elsewhere.

I don't want to be depressing, but realistic.

If someone wants to shed light and hopefully suggest I have missed something, I am open to that possibility.

Please note, the "solid" designation may have shifted...I can't imagine, really, Kentucky or Louisiana or Tennessee or West Virginia or Arkansas or Georgia REALLY voting for a Democrat. But how much does that help the Republican? And just for fun, let's add in Indiana and North Carolina--two states that went for Obama in '08 but went for Romney in '12. Let's see:

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Well, that helps a wee bit. Now the Republican is at 179 votes. So s/he is short by 91 votes.

The Republican starts out needing 91 votes, the DemonRat only 23.

Thoughts, anyone?

41 posted on 11/17/2014 8:46:54 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: MDLION

The Clintons have been sucking up to the RINO side of the republican party for years. They are betting on crossovers from the republican party to put her over the top.

Heck, just the other day W called Bill he brother by another mother!

*puke*


42 posted on 11/17/2014 8:47:23 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: stevem

The few liberals in my family tell me that they don’t care for her, but see her as maybe their best chance to finally gain complete control of SCOTUS.

I don’t really agree with that assessment (by the time Obama’s two terms are up, the country will be sick & tired of *all* Dims), but damn if they don’t have killer instinct regarding the courts..


43 posted on 11/17/2014 8:50:57 PM PST by MarkRegal05
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To: musicman

ROFL on that image!


44 posted on 11/17/2014 8:52:08 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: SeekAndFind
if her opponent is a mush GOPe she may well get that and more.
45 posted on 11/17/2014 8:53:23 PM PST by RginTN
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To: ClearCase_guy
"Elizabeth Warren has a lock on the Dem nomination."


46 posted on 11/17/2014 8:53:36 PM PST by garjog (Obama: bringing joy to the hearts of Terrorists everywhere.)
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To: SoFloFreeper; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj

they use the term “tipping point” and, as I’ve noted, FLA is no longer in that column as it has become more GOP than average. Prob stayed the same as COL VA NV have drifted left.

Pennsylvania has moved toward the GOP. I have no articulate theory on it. Industry. Coal. Rural-living.


47 posted on 11/17/2014 8:56:58 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (Let the dead bury the dead. Let the GOP bury the GOP.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Republicans have to win FL, OH, CO and NV to win - all states Obama carried in 2012.

PA is not winnable because of Philly. So it leaves those four states plus VA which nowadays is very difficult to win because its flipped from Red to Purple.

The path is there but its easier for a Democrat than a Republican in Purple states due to changing demographics.

As it stands the GOP is at a disadvantage and has to run the boards to win the White House.

Its the political reality come 2016.


48 posted on 11/17/2014 8:59:30 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

Delusional.


49 posted on 11/17/2014 9:03:34 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: SeekAndFind

These just might take hillary out of the running.

Six trivia questions to see how much history you really know. Be honest, it’s kinda fun and revealing. If you don’t know the answer make your best guess. Answer all of the questions (no cheating) before looking at the answers. And no, the answers to these questions isn’t all “Barack Obama”.

Who said it?
1) “We’re going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.”
A. Karl Marx
B. Adolph Hitler
C. Joseph Stalin
D. Barack Obama
E. None of the above

2) “It’s time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few...... And to replace it with shared responsibility, for shared prosperity.”
A. Lenin
B. Mussolini
C. Idi Amin
D. Barack Obama
E. None of the above

3) “(We).....can’t just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people.”
A. Nikita Khrushev
B. Joseph Goebbels
C. Boris Yeltsin
D. Barack Obama
E. None of the above

4) “We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own ... in order to create this common ground.”
A. Mao Tse Dung
B. Hugo Chavez
C. Kim Jong II
D. Barack Obama
E. None of the above

5) “I certainly think the free-market has failed.”
A. Karl Marx
B. Lenin
C. Molotov
D. Barack Obama
E. None of the above

6) “I think it’s time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being watched.”
A. Pinochet
B. Milosevic
C. Saddam Hussein
D. Barack Obama
E. None of the above

Scroll down for answers

Answers
(1) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/29/2004
(2) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 5/29/2007
(3) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007
(4) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007
(5) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007
(6) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 9/2/2005


50 posted on 11/17/2014 9:03:51 PM PST by dalereed
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To: campaignPete R-CT

NV now has a GOP legislature and in CO the Senate is now under GOP control.

In VA, Democratic Sen. Mark Warner barely beat an underfunded GOP candidate.

So things are looking brighter for 2016.


51 posted on 11/17/2014 9:05:53 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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52 posted on 11/17/2014 9:08:39 PM PST by Slyfox (To put on the mind of George Washington read ALL of Deuteronomy 28, then read his Farewell Address)
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To: freedumb2003

If she is nominated, it won’t matter what Republicans do. She will lose. She screws up everything she touches. I don’t think she’ll be nominated, 2008 was her year but she screws up everything she touches.


53 posted on 11/17/2014 9:14:43 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: goldstategop

2012 margin of victory by Bambi

1.Colorado, 5.37%
2.Pennsylvania, 5.39%
3.New Hampshire, 5.58%
4.Iowa, 5.81%
5.Nevada, 6.68%
6.Wisconsin, 6.94%

Ryan helped WISC, so that is now inaccurate ... did Mormonism help Romney in NV?

FL VA OH all appear to be more in the GOP camp. If CO is ever forever lost, we are cooked.


54 posted on 11/17/2014 9:20:11 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (Let the dead bury the dead. Let the GOP bury the GOP.)
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To: goldstategop

That’s what I’m thinking. If Kerry (the Democrat version of Bob Dole) can win 246EVs after 9/11, I’m guessing that almost any Democrat nominee can win those states. (I’d say keep an eye on Michigan, but suspect that Clinton would do a few points better among white voters than Hussein did.)

I don’t trust the direction Virginia is going. The Dems had no GOTV machine and still won during this dramatic wave year, and the suburbs outside of D.C. are only going to get more populated (including more illegals and lots more fraud). And NM seems gone.

This all adds-up to the Democrat needing to win only one more state.. Ohio, Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Nevada - any one would do the trick.

If the GOP is considering splitting electoral votes in Michigan and Wisconsin, I’d say do it. It would give them a tiny bit more breathing room against the Democrat in ‘16.

And I’d also prioritize passage of more voter ID laws. I’m convinced that there are states in the “blue wall” that are built on illegal voters.


55 posted on 11/17/2014 9:23:02 PM PST by MarkRegal05
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To: ClearCase_guy
Elizabeth Warren has a lock on the Dem nomination.

Oui, one suspects, and also that Jerry Moonbeam might appear as her Veep candidate.

There is no honor among the corrupted, and one suspects that Hillary will be shown the door at the last moment (and Warren will be able to do what Mister Obama did, use the fact that she had little political voting history to her advantage.)

I would love to be wrong, btw.

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56 posted on 11/17/2014 9:24:30 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: goldstategop

I also tried to review the use of Palin in fall 2008. She went immediately to CO. Grand Junction, Greeley, Col SPrings, Loveland. Golden. All the right places.

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_10771372

Then did they get distracted by the national interviews with Couric, etc.? And the hockey game in Philly?

The Palin effort to bring out the rural and Christian base ... seemed to lose steam in CO. Did they quit on it?


57 posted on 11/17/2014 9:25:49 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (Let the dead bury the dead. Let the GOP bury the GOP.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Who the f cares. The elites will get whomever they want that will screw us people. ONLY a total revolution will get the real America back but this train has passed the station.


58 posted on 11/17/2014 9:25:53 PM PST by Digger
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To: Seaplaner

Lizzie best hope, that Hill’s kill boys- are well retired.


59 posted on 11/17/2014 9:27:11 PM PST by RedHeeler
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To: SeekAndFind

Wash this interview in Colorado and everyone high on pot?


60 posted on 11/17/2014 9:29:58 PM PST by Reno89519 (For every illegal with a job, there's an American without one.)
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