Posted on 11/17/2014 4:27:08 PM PST by steve86
Almost no one will dispute that when a baby is born, breast milk is the best nutrition a mother can provide. All mammals nurse their young, and breast milk benefits a newborn infant in ways above and beyond nutrition.
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More and more evidence is surfacing, however, that milk consumption may not only be unhelpful, it might also be detrimental.
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But if you believe the advertising of the dairy industry, and the recommendations of many scientific bodies, they are missing out on some fantastic benefits to milk consumption: that milk is good for bones, contains calcium and vitamin D, and “does a body good.”
There’s not a lot of evidence for these types of claims. In 2011, The Journal of Bone and Mineral Research published a meta-analysis examining whether milk consumption might protect against hip fracture in middle-aged and older adults. Six studies containing almost 200,000 women could find no association between drinking milk and lower rates of fractures.
More recent research confirms these findings. A study published in JAMA Pediatrics this year followed almost 100,000 men and women for more than two decades. Subjects were asked to report on how much milk they had consumed as teenagers, and then they were followed to see if that was associated with a reduced chance of hip fractures later in life. It wasn’t.
A just-released study in The BMJ that followed more than 45,000 men and 61,000 women in Sweden age 39 and older had similar results. Milk consumption as adults was associated with no protection for men, and an increased risk of fractures in women. It was also associated with an increased risk of death in both sexes.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
One theory is that the protein in milk leeches out the calcium in bones.
Americans are the only country who buy what the US Dept of Agriculture, an organization with, if not ulterior motives, a conflict of interest, tells people what to eat.
Wacko
WE are the only ones who drink milk in this way.
The Euros have dairy intake, cheese baked stuff, milk in coffee. And it’s not pasteurized, which is all about commerce.
Asians don’t dream of drinking milk.
They don’t have male pattern baldness, heart disease, osteoporosis to the extent that we do.
None of these countries think about the widespread obesity we find so acceptable.
Cows milk is not human breast milk.
Nor is formula, for that matter, which gets into a whole huge discussion.
Cows milk is for baby cows.
Bacon, eggs, the rest, butter....they get a terrible rap.
They are good food, especially when they are from quality free range distributors,
Good fat is good. Not to be mixed with refined sugar, which develops paste.
(Paleo diet)
Milk is food for baby cows.
What do they eat for calcium?
+1
Always loved that ad.
My wife is a Filipina - unlike most, she has not gained much weight since coming to the US or bearing our child. But, then again, every 3rd or 4th meal for her is rice plus a small dab of “fermented shrimp” or dried fish that I swear (because of the smell) damages the paint on the walls. (Ok, I’m overstating it, but not by much.) Then again, she eats a lot of fatty stuff I won’t touch, and fried foods (skin) I try to minimize. Rice she eats lots of - almost every meal. She eats some veggies and fruits, but I consume far more than she does.
At any rate, of the Asians I know, plus my brother spent considerable time in China, “back home” the diet is fish heavy and very very rice heavy, with some veggies thrown in. Hard to get fat on that. But I drink moderate amounts of milk (2-3 quarts a week, some fat free, a little 2% on cereal or with cookies, pie, etc.) and go on occasional “binges” of maybe 1/2 quart of ice cream in a 2 week period. My last blood pressure was 108 over 62, and I really think I need more exercise if for better endurance, if naught else. I’m almost 60 and haven’t gained any weight in the last few years, so, am pretty happy about that and the BP, even though I hope more hiking next year will knock off 5 lbs. or so...
What’s better than a good pumpkin pie with real whipped cream and a glass of milk? Life’s gotta be worth enjoying sometimes...
What? And give up my fried catfish? The heck with that.
Equating and linking ‘Male Pattern Baldness, Heart Disease and Osteoporosis to the intake of Cows milk does not compute and has no basis in reality! Please post the links that lend ANY credibility to your assertions!
Widespread obesity was never a concern in days past while the overwhelming majority of Americans consumed cows milk, but absolutely skyrocketed with the widespread use of HFCS, as far as I can see!
What makes your assertions concerning obesity in America any more valid than mine?
Magnesium.
Oh, I know. The French are very big on cream. they just don’t have a steady diet of it.
There’s also the theory of eat right for your blood type.
We Americans would be wise to look at that.
Most Asians have A (I think A+) Which is very amenable to What they eat. while Americans, coming form all parts of the Globe, have all different blood types.
What’s good for one group is poison to the other.
If you are a type O, you are happy with what you’re eating.
Lots of Red meat, etc.
blood types tend to be specific to region and ancestry.
. Bourbon is the secret.
And whipped cream - form the Williams Sonoma canister, NOT cool whip, which, speaking of poison...
enjoying food is more important, but here are a lot of schools of thought. on it.
Read the Paleo Diet theory.
Also, the theories of high protein diet concerning loss of calcium via the kidneys.
the theories that I follow are theories.
Americans spend a lot of energy hating others who won’t buy their theories as fact.
The theories I follow you can buy into or not, I don’t care. They are theories.
Do go to the local mall sometime soon and check out the obesity.
High fructose corn syrup, ok.
But also, white sugar, white flour, milk and the way they are processed are quite different from the way they were processed a century and a half ago, when people did not have heart disease, breast cancer and obesity.
Congratulations to her. What she must have seen over these years.
a lot of people have lactase deficiency...especially if they have Asian, eastern European, African or Native American genes. The enzyme that lets you digest milk disappears as the baby ages in most populations, except for western Europeans and a small tribe in Uganda (!).
Take a lactaid tablet, and no problem. In Oklahoma, so many people have some Native American blood and have trouble with milk that they sell milk with the lactaid mixed with the milk.
Yogurt and Cheese cause less problems for most folks
In Africa, the saying was that they couldn’t drink milk “until it was ripe”.
Milk can also cause “allergy” in some people.
Asians don’t have those diseases, but they have other ones.
Lots of stomach cancer (from eating fish which is often smoked). High blood pressure is epidemic here in the Philippines, even in our think farmers, from the high salt diet.
And a lot of studies ignore that things that contribute to “degenerative” type diseases also make you larger, stronger, and less likely to die of things like tuberculosis or infectious disease.
Interesting
The quality of life that we accept is weird. So much obesity. And dependence on pharmaceuticals
I like what the paleo diet people are saying.
I do think this government pushes milk to a stupefying degree
Interesting theories, and not without some merit, but still theories.
No point in hating over disbelief of theories, I tend to simply dismiss them until factual information is provided.
I see the obesity, and although there is no single source of the problem, processed foodstuffs are a significant issue and I wouldn’t argue with that.
My primary disagreement is in the bad rap you give cow’s milk, and I feel it is undeserved due to historical evidence in this country.
That’s not to say I agree with the steroids, antibiotics and other drugs given to cows these days as it is not a good thing for humans, but that is a separate issue in the context of obesity, IMO (even that I would admit is not necessarily “implausible).
I’m open to new theories, but prefer some solid evidence to back them up.
Thanks Lady for the good info, much appreciated :)
Thanks Lady for the good info, much appreciated :)
Thanks Lady for the good info, much appreciated :)
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