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Reader View: Let’s revisit the Second Amendment
The Santa Fe New Mexican ^ | 11/15/14 | Hank Bahnsen

Posted on 11/17/2014 1:29:43 PM PST by Kartographer

There is no Second Amendment right to own guns. So intended the founders!

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; US: New Mexico
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Now you know why I feel that I live in the Great State of Eastern California!
1 posted on 11/17/2014 1:29:43 PM PST by Kartographer
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To: CedarDave; LegendHasIt; leapfrog0202; Santa Fe_Conservative; DesertDreamer; OneWingedShark; ...

NM PING!


2 posted on 11/17/2014 1:30:23 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Elections HAVE consequences!


3 posted on 11/17/2014 1:33:45 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Kartographer

Try us, Obamaholes.


4 posted on 11/17/2014 1:33:49 PM PST by Da Coyote
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There is no Second Amendment right to own guns. So intended the founders!

They are correct.

That right came from our creator.

The Second Amendment simply says the government cannot interfere with that right.

5 posted on 11/17/2014 1:33:53 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (The Gruber Revelations are proof that God is still smiling on America.)
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To: Kartographer
In this line the writer shows that he's just parroting the fraud in Michael Bellesiles's "Arming America".

In 1791, fewer than 15 percent of the white male population, mostly untrained in the military use of weapons, possessed guns.

6 posted on 11/17/2014 1:34:09 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Kartographer

In this respect he is right, the 2nd grants no rights to own a gun. This right in God-given and predates the invention of gunpowder.


7 posted on 11/17/2014 1:35:37 PM PST by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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An prime candidate for the Barack Obama Chair in Constitutional Law! /s


8 posted on 11/17/2014 1:38:38 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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They will never stop trying to assume complete control. They cannot do that as long as we are armed.


9 posted on 11/17/2014 1:39:16 PM PST by muir_redwoods ("He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." G.K .C)
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They will never stop trying to assume complete control. They cannot do that as long as we are armed.


10 posted on 11/17/2014 1:40:07 PM PST by muir_redwoods ("He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." G.K .C)
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The Second Amendment doesn’t even mention the word “guns.” It says specificially that the right concerns ARMS. That’s a broad category and includes ALL WEAPONS one might “bear.”

And what it says it that that right shall not be infringed. Look up the meaning of “infringed” and then tell me how a gun, being an “arm” in the 2A sense, can be prohibited without infringing that right.


11 posted on 11/17/2014 1:42:06 PM PST by IronJack
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Hm, ok let's revisit and revise the Second Amendment:
Section I
Whereas a well-trained militia comprised of the citizens is necessary to the security of a free state, the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Section II
Whereas taxes may indirectly infringe or otherwise constrain the obtaining of arms, no tax or fee of any kind shall be placed on any form of armament or munitions.

Section III
This amendment shall apply to the United States, the several States, and all subdivisions of both.

12 posted on 11/17/2014 1:42:34 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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"There is no Second Amendment right to own guns. So intended the founders!"

Wow! Bill Whittle nailed this one.
Watch here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOwy9OWfnAM&list=PLvOVyowmYcu0HeVcvmfzgnG-BNa6pEdWv

13 posted on 11/17/2014 1:43:10 PM PST by Falcon4.0
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http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/print_documents/amendIIs9.html

The prohibition is general. No clause in the Constitution could by any rule of construction be conceived to give to congress a power to disarm the people. Such a flagitious attempt could only be made under some general pretence by a state legislature. But if in any blind pursuit of inordinate power, either should attempt it, this amendment may be appealed to as a restraint on both.


14 posted on 11/17/2014 1:44:55 PM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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Rights came from our Creator ...

Thanks for the good reminder.

Anyone who wants to take our guns should have to come out here in fly-over country and deal with varmints like coyotes and rats. Maybe try to reason with them or something.

I guess people that live in gated communities with armed security don’t have to worry about some of the stuff we mere mortals do.


15 posted on 11/17/2014 1:47:53 PM PST by Cloverfarm
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“let’s revisit the second amendment”

No, let’s revisit the idea of my size 13 boot upside your backside.

CC


16 posted on 11/17/2014 1:49:44 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (stercus accidit)
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To: IronJack

I think we have the right to anything that can be fired from the shoulder!


17 posted on 11/17/2014 1:52:46 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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There are plenty of “coyotes and rats” in Blue States, the problem is they are allowed to vote!!


18 posted on 11/17/2014 1:53:55 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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Send him this
19 posted on 11/17/2014 1:56:08 PM PST by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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John Greenspan wrote “My conservative friends won’t like this, but try as I may, I cannot find a private right to possess firearms in the Second Amendment. I would be opposed to a total ban on guns as was the case in New York and D.C., but I think the Supreme Court got it wrong in the Heller case.”

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The first 10 amendments to the Constitution are all about individual rights, of course. How dumb does one have to be to see that the second amendment does not confer any rights to us, it merely codifies the human right of self-defense by forbidding the government from taking away our right to self-defense with firearms.


20 posted on 11/17/2014 1:56:33 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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