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1 posted on 11/16/2014 1:52:46 PM PST by reaganaut1
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“prosecutorial discretion”

Oh?

Well seems to me that abuse of discretion is either a high crime or a misdemeanor.


2 posted on 11/16/2014 1:54:33 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: reaganaut1
...Or he can choose the power grab, and the accompanying isgrace...

Disgrace ?
zer0 could be dragged kicking and screaming from the White House and he would never feel such a thing as disgrace. He's way too far gone for that.
3 posted on 11/16/2014 2:02:01 PM PST by ComputerGuy (BS, MS, PhD and a BMF besides)
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To: reaganaut1

All the people have to do on this issue is tell them the truth. Their taxes will go way up, the illegals won’t be paying any and get all the freebies they can’t have, resources will be used up, lands overpopulated quickly, their votes will never count again as the illegals gain majority rule quickly and only the people they choose will hold office, and the U.S will disentigrate and become an extension of Mexico and fall into the same state of affairs.

Comprende?


4 posted on 11/16/2014 2:04:17 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: reaganaut1

After blacks realize what happened to them, they’ll want to lynch Obama.


5 posted on 11/16/2014 2:13:59 PM PST by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: reaganaut1

The consequences of not securing a country’s borders is a people will lose their country as we are now losing ours to an invasion of illegal immigrants. The consequences of not securing a country’s electoral processes to prevent voter fraud is the country will lose its Democracy to a Thugocracy as we are now losing ours to a Chicago mob run coup d’état.


7 posted on 11/16/2014 2:21:07 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war,and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: reaganaut1
Dissolution of our borders by refusal to enforce immigration laws & issuance of edicts inviting and facilitating invasion

Bankrupting our economy via Obamacare

Discharging top military officers

Shrinking the military

 

Destruction of defense/Destruction of economy/Destruction of sovereignty.    A multi-pronged attack upon the United States.

 

WAKE UP


8 posted on 11/16/2014 2:21:29 PM PST by Ray76 (We must destroy the Uniparty or be destroyed by them.)
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To: reaganaut1
Prosecutorial discretion permits an advocate for the people to negotiate lesser charges or completely decline prosecution in specific cases where the People's interest are not served or cannot adequately be represented [insufficient evidence, abuse of police power, abuse of evidentiary rules...]

It does not, under any currently recognized theory, permit the exclusion of broad classes of people. To do so is a violation of the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, of all legal precedent in the Federal Case Law and Common Law, and in several parts of the US Code.

To permit entire classes of US Persons an exclusion from the law is an injustice and is exactly the reason that the Civil Rights of Act of 1964 was written.

It is a violation of the Presidential oath which requires that he faithfully execute the office of the President of the United States, which explicitly requires of him a Constitutional Duty [to] "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed."

It is also a High Crime.

A clear, annotated essay on 0bama's abuses [not just immigration law] here: http://www.cato.org/publications/testimony/presidents-constitutional-duty-faithfully-execute-laws. Not only Congress and the Federal Courts, but every American should manfully oppose this President's every subsequent action if he takes this route. In particular, the government should be shut down until this unlawful order is rescinded.

9 posted on 11/16/2014 2:23:29 PM PST by FredZarguna (Jean à de longues moustaches. Je répète: Jean à de longues moustaches.)
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To: reaganaut1

Doez laws B racis’.


10 posted on 11/16/2014 2:32:32 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: reaganaut1

“prosecutorial discretion”

Interesting concept. So we choose which federal crimes to prosecute and which ones to not prosecute.

How about this (from a future Republican president, after the Democrats in Congress fail to act):

THE IRS AND FEDERAL PROSECUTORS ARE HEREBY INSTRUCTED TO NOT PROSECUTE, OR TAKE ANY OTHER ACTION, AGAINST ANY AMERICAN WHO HAS PAID AT LEAST 20% OF HIS INCOME IN TAXES.

Goes both ways. What you see there just above is an EXECUTIVE FLAT TAX (of 20%).

Can ANYONE tell me how this differs from Obama’s Illegals plan?


14 posted on 11/16/2014 2:43:46 PM PST by BobL (Don't forget - Today's Russians learn math WITHOUT calculators.)
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To: reaganaut1

The president in the execution of laws passed by Congress does not have ‘prosecutorial discretion.’ He is to faithfully execute the laws of the land.

Obviously, if anyone can pick and choose various aspects of any document to enforce, not enforce, half enforce, then that person really is writing the law and not faithfully executing it.


19 posted on 11/16/2014 5:50:16 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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20 posted on 11/16/2014 6:37:10 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: reaganaut1

From the New York Times, nonetheless.

I’m pretty sure I just saw a pig fly by the window...


21 posted on 11/16/2014 6:59:34 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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After all, under this theory of what counts as faithfully executing the law, all that matters is that somebody, somewhere, is being deported; anyone and everyone else can be allowed to work and stay. So the president could “temporarily” legalize 99.9 percent of illegal immigrants and direct the Border Patrol to hand out work visas to every subsequent border crosser, so long as a few thousand aliens were deported for felonies every year.

What if they are not working?

I am trying to find an unbiased and near 100% accurate source. I thought the Census Bureau might be the place. Maybe but I do not know enough to get the data I want. I did get some data that suggests that scores of working-age adults are not working. But I cannot prove legal or illegal, so far. Skip to Census table for working-age adults born in Mexico and living here

For anyone who might be interested in how the Cencus Bureau provides access to much of its data..

The following is entirely superfluous -- except for anyone who might be interested in taking a look at the U.S. Census Bureau Data Ferret. They have alternative, less comprehensive means to get tables also.

There are plenty of tutorials at Census and other places -- this serves only as an effort to make us aware that it exists.

What follows can be for any country. I started with Mexicorruption because its government is driving their unwanted citizens here, interfering with our internal affairs to alleviate social problems in Mexico that they themselves created due to their avarice and matching criminal activities. IMO.

I expected to find appropriate U.S. Census data but found instead the Data Ferret, make your own tables. The data options make it pretty complicated though the procedures are fairly straightforward, I still have a long way to go. My example is very simple.

U.S. Census Data Ferret Requires allowing popups and Java.

Log in, requires email but it's suppose to be for when the size of the table is so great you can have it emailed to you hours latter.

You can also use this Table Creator

For Data Ferret after entering your email address click Get Data Now or first do the Tutorials, Examples, or other options.

The first screen is a collection of data sets.

So I choose

Then

Now I'm back where I can simply move on to the get that "table" or I can select more variables (see below); first I created the "table" using just the one variable.

So I clicked the Step2 Button and that gave me

The next screen is the spread sheet..

.

That returns 6,745,048 as the value for

Which I took to mean that of the individuals born in Mexico and living here enough participated in the survey to estimate that 6,745,048 people born in Mexico are now living here.. legally and illegally.

Close the window with the spread sheet. The other windows remain and you can add variables and get back to the spread sheet window to create other tables.

I added my second variable

My two variables are:

For Mexico I get: Total PENATVTY = 6,745,048 w/o PTERNWA, Total PENATVTY = 4,213 w/ PTERNWA, Average PTERNWA = 70.6, Std Err PTERNWA = 3.06.

For Canada I get: Total PENATVTY = 885,582 w/o PTERNWA, Total PENATVTY = 446 w/PTERNWA, Average PTERNWA = 129.3; Std Err PTERNWA = 18.94

I do not recall seeing it but I sure think that Total PENATVTY w/PTERNWA ought to be in thousands.

Mexico on the left and Canada on the right.

Between 0 and 100 6
Between 100.01 and 200 36
Between 200.01 and 300 125
Between 300.01 and 400 180
Between 400.01 and 500 109
Between 500.01 and 600 73
Between 600.01 and 700 36
Between 700.01 and 800 33
Between 800.01 and 900 7
Between 900.01 and 1000 9
Between 1000.01 and 1100 4
Between 1100.01 and 1200 4
Between 1200.01 and 1300 5
Between 1300.01 and 1400 5
Between 1400.01 and 1500 3
Between 1500.01 and 1600 0
Between 1600.01 and 1700 1
Between 1700.01 and 1800 1
Between 1800.01 and 1900 0
Between 1900.01 and 2000 1
Between 2000.01 and 2100 1
Between 2100.01 and 2200 0
Between 2200.01 and 2300 1
Between 2300.01 and 2400 0
Between 2400.01 and 2500 1
Between 2500.01 and 2600 0
Between 2600.01 and 2700 0
Between 2700.01 and 2800 0
Between 2800.01 and 2884.61 0
Not Elsewhere Classified (nec.) 3,572
Between 0 and 100 0
Between 100.01 and 200 3
Between 200.01 and 300 4
Between 300.01 and 400 6
Between 400.01 and 500 5
Between 500.01 and 600 3
Between 600.01 and 700 6
Between 700.01 and 800 5
Between 800.01 and 900 3
Between 900.01 and 1000 7
Between 1000.01 and 1100 4
Between 1100.01 and 1200 2
Between 1200.01 and 1300 1
Between 1300.01 and 1400 1
Between 1400.01 and 1500 3
Between 1500.01 and 1600 2
Between 1600.01 and 1700 0
Between 1700.01 and 1800 2
Between 1800.01 and 1900 0
Between 1900.01 and 2000 0
Between 2000.01 and 2100 0
Between 2100.01 and 2200 1
Between 2200.01 and 2300 0
Between 2300.01 and 2400 1
Between 2400.01 and 2500 0
Between 2500.01 and 2600 0
Between 2600.01 and 2700 1
Between 2700.01 and 2800 0
Between 2800.01 and 2884.61 2
Not Elsewhere Classified (nec.) 384

Using the alternative and simpler Create Tables I get

Totals Nativity - Detailed All people (in thousands)
................................Naturalized
.................Native.........Citizen.....Not a Citizen
306,394.....267,517.....17,026......21,852

Totals Nativity - Detailed Adult Civilian Workers (in thousands)
................................Naturalized
.................Native.........Citizen.....Not a Citizen
155,790.....131,473.....10,802......13,515

If I live long enough I may be able to get sophisticated, current and very useful tables. Are all those 13+ million workers actually working?

23 posted on 11/16/2014 9:21:59 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: All
Congress better understand that the very future of our republic is at stake here---Obama's amnesty is intended to precipitate the overthrow of the US govt.

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FREEPER IOWA CORNMAN POSTED: I suggest we start raising hell with our representatives that we want no funding of any of this......We need injunctive relief immediately in the federal courts to enjoin any federal agency from implementing this unconstitutional madness.

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Capitol switchboard...1-866-220-0044.
Call or write your legislator ASAP.

MESSAGE: tell Congress that your midterm vote was specific---a demand that they fight tooth and nail---using both tooth and nail----to demolish the Obama/Reid amnesty plan to force American taxpayers to subsidize the expansion of the Democrat party w/ foreign voters.

AMERICANS HAVE BEEN VERY PATIENT: Americans demand the Republican leadership tell Obama: "If the president unilaterally moves to augment the power of the Executive Branch in an unprecedented and unconstitutional manner via E/O'ing amnesty, then the Legislative Branch will need to increase its powers in order to maintain the balance of powers called for in the US Constitution.

FREEPER EDWIN LAND INSIGHTFULLY POSTED: The Senate can do this in an unprecedented but completely constitutional manner, by providing that the filibuster rule is suspended completely until such time as the president withdraws his executive aggrandizement.

RATIONALE--Obama's temporary amnesty E/O requires temporary suspension of the rule. That should also include Congress passing laws without the president signing the bill.

If it is okay for the president to overreach, then it is okay for Congress to overreach. Obama forgets that the Congress---and Americans---can also say, “We have been patient.”

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THIS NEEDS TO GO VIRAL----STOP OBAMA IN HIS TRACKS :

(1) Fund every penny that is budgeted now.....except defund all DHS, ICE, HHS and USCIS' rubber-stamp activities. Defund anything and everything that directly and indirectly deals with amnesty: work permits, green cards for illegals, gravy train subsidies, re-situating unaccompanied minors w/ families. Then let Obama defend his amnesty E/O or take the blame for the entire shutdown himself.

(2) As a further warning----no votes on ANY Obama nominees until Jan 20, 2017. No judges, No Attorney General, no sub-cabinet secretaries. NOTHING----thanks to the SCOTUS ruling, Obama could not recess-appoint ANYONE, if the House declares the Congress is always in session.

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Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-ALA), has set up an active war room dedicated to undermining Obama's plans on immigration, and is next in line to chair the Budget Committee. From that perch, he would have the power to set spending parameters that undermine the president's moves.

CONTACT
Jeff Sessions
335 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING
WASHINGTON DC 20510

Phone: (202) 224-4124

EMAIL PAGE AT SESSIONS' OFFICIAL WEB SITE
http://www.sessions.senate.gov/public/

24 posted on 11/17/2014 6:08:10 AM PST by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: reaganaut1

So that explains it.


25 posted on 11/17/2014 8:08:32 AM PST by Jean2 (ox)
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